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Pre-Orders for blu-ray are open now

wow, expensive i'll wait till they come down in price 🙂 the 28.99 discs aren't too bad but the players are way to expensive.
 
Underworld Evolution
(Blu-ray, Widescreen)

$38.95


Dang man that's a lot of cash..... Looks like only the older or less popular movies are a little less. I hope the rest of the top hits or new releases dont follow suit with that price.
 
So that Sony player says nothing of HDCP and does say the analog video out will be up to 1080i... Could this be for real?
 
Originally posted by: cubby1223
So that Sony player says nothing of HDCP and does say the analog video out will be up to 1080i... Could this be for real?
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Yes, it's real.

Pushing HDCP at this stage in the game would be suicide (due to low HDCP penetration). All the major players have pretty much agreed that HDCP won't be enabled on any current titles.

Viper GTS
 
Pretty much on par with what's been predicted. I'm actually surprised at how cheap the blank discs are. The movies will need to be $10 cheaper for me to buy anything other than the 'essentials'.
 
Definitely surprised at how affordable those blanks are. I remember dual layer DVD being around that price just a short time ago (relatively).
 
Looking at those prices again - who in their right mind would ever buy these? Just wait until Christmas / January and buy a PS3 and save a boat-load of money. But then hd-dvd would have the sales advantage up until then, in which case the ps3 might be just an overpriced gaming only machine. Too many things to consider and worry about, what was supposed to be so great about this hd revolution? Where's the player that reads both blu-ray & hd-dvd?
 
Need BluRay burners . . .

Realistically, as much as I want a BluRay burner, it's probably better I wait until the 2nd generation BluRay burners hit the market before I buy one. Reliability, cheaper drives, and cheaper media aside, the 2nd gen drives will have faster burn speeds; a real plus when burning a 50GB disk.
 
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Looking at those prices again - who in their right mind would ever buy these? Just wait until Christmas / January and buy a PS3 and save a boat-load of money. But then hd-dvd would have the sales advantage up until then, in which case the ps3 might be just an overpriced gaming only machine. Too many things to consider and worry about, what was supposed to be so great about this hd revolution? Where's the player that reads both blu-ray & hd-dvd?
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That's probably part of the thinking that Sony is hoping will make the PS3 take off. But generally standalone players quality of playback is much better than a console.
 
Originally posted by: LooneyThat's probably part of the thinking that Sony is hoping will make the PS3 take off. But generally standalone players quality of playback is much better than a console.
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Yeah, that was true for the last gen of players but I don't think it will be true for the current gen so much. Back when the ps2 came out, dvd players and their electronics were expensive. Adding a nice decoder chip to the ps2 would have been financially unpleasant for a device that already sold below cost. With the new consoles, processing power increases have far outstripped pixel & decoding performance requirements. Even without acceleration, a new gen console cpu should have more than enough processing power to decode mpeg4 @ HD.

 
Originally posted by: zephyrprime
Originally posted by: LooneyThat's probably part of the thinking that Sony is hoping will make the PS3 take off. But generally standalone players quality of playback is much better than a console.
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Yeah, that was true for the last gen of players but I don't think it will be true for the current gen so much. Back when the ps2 came out, dvd players and their electronics were expensive. Adding a nice decoder chip to the ps2 would have been financially unpleasant for a device that already sold below cost. With the new consoles, processing power increases have far outstripped pixel & decoding performance requirements. Even without acceleration, a new gen console cpu should have more than enough processing power to decode mpeg4 @ HD.
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'enough processing' is not the only factor in quality. A $40 DVD player plays a DVD movie without skipping, but the quality isn't the same as a $400 player.
 
Without a correspondingly high quality TV, the quality of the player is largely irrelevant. Anyone who can afford a 1080p TV good enough to distinguish the difference between players will not be scared off by the price of the standalone players. For everyone else, the PS3 will be plenty. A crappy DVD player still gives a better picture than a highend VCR, just as a crappy BR player will give a better picture than a typical mass market quality DVD player.
 
Are these BR and HD DVDs you can buy now true HD content? I mean are they mastered from the film print in HD resolution?

I thought for true HD content you need the source to be shot with a different camera?
 
gramboh, film has far higher resolution than hd. hddvd content is already out. and is stunning ifyou have a good screen. only tv shows shot on tape need hdtv cameras for hd quality, and most decent shows have been shot on hd for the last couple years, or shot with film if lucky.

if youw ant to see the sad difference rent startrek theoriginal series on dvd. it was from film so its cyrstal clear. the next generation was on tape, and looks like a fuzzy mess.
 
Originally posted by: corkyg
Sounds like Betamax all over again. It brings nothing to my party.
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So you expect the pr0n industry to adopt the later, more widely licensed but inferior format and thus determine the standard? 😉

Then again, if Betamax brought nothing to your party... what the heck did you prefer at that time, open reel to reel?

Seriousry though, the recording market is diff'rent than that of the stamped movie and one format will not necessarily rule them all. Indeed, HD DVD-RAM may prove a cheeky upset to debates upon the former, as with the predecessor formats.
 
Films are broadcast in MPEG-2 HD now which is nice in one way but would be nicer in AVC/H.264 due to storage limitations, if not network.
 
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