Pre-N routa Q..

[thirdlegstump]

Do dem suckas push mo signal regardless of yo receiva? Meanin I still gotz mah ol' G thang in mah lappy n I needz mo range. Wit a Pre-N routa, will I B gittin dat or does I gotz to git me a Pre-N card too? Mad preciate.

 

[n0cmonkey]

English?

 

[thirdlegstump]

come on man I worked real hard trying to type that up.

 

[Changlinn]

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[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: deathkoba
Do dem suckas push mo signal regardless of yo receiva? Meanin I still gotz mah ol' G thang in mah lappy n I needz mo range. Wit a Pre-N routa, will I B gittin dat or does I gotz to git me a Pre-N card too? Mad preciate.

Translation:
Do pre-N access points have a stronger signal than non-pre-N APs when not used in conjunction with a pre-N client? Or will I need to purchase a pre-N card for my laptop also? I appreciate any help, despite my inability to act human.

come on man I worked real hard trying to type that up.

This isn't P&N or ATOT, act appropriately here, please.

 

[Changlinn]

Originally posted by: Changlinn
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For all those of non-133ness...lol
You need a pre-n card and ap, diddy
SO to get the full functionality of pre-n you will need both, but as far as I am aware the signal range of pre-n should be around the same as b/g... correct me if I am wrong, and besides that if you get a pcmcia card the antenna in them are notoriously badly directed.

 

[thirdlegstump]

So what you're saying is that to take advantage of the increased signal range of a Pre-N router, I would require a Pre-N NIC as well? Or will I get the range of the Pre-N router but will just get the G speeds? I'm a bit confused there.

 

[JackMDS]

The Absolute range of all the Wireless Hardware 802.11b to Pre 802.11n is always the same, because the signal output power is the same < 50mW

As an example if you stand 100ft from the source the signal?s strength will be the same.

If both the source and client are 802.11b, the Bandwidth at 100ft would be 100Kb/sec. which will not be enough to establish connection and you get Nothing.

If both client and source are 802.11g might be 1000Kb/sec. so will get connected

If both Client and source are pre 802.11n might be 4000Kb/sec. so you will be connected nicely.

I.e. pre 802.11n with 802.11b card you would get Nothing.

pre 802.11n with 802.11g card you would get what you get from 802.11g

If the Source and the card do not match you get as though they both work at the lowest standard.

:sun:

 

[thirdlegstump]

Jack, you've just busted my balls there. I'm talking about consumer (Belkin) grade routers. I have cheap Linksys G card in my laptop and currently get dissapointing range in the apartment with a Netgear wifi router. Will replacing the Netgear with a Belkin Pre-N router increase my the overall range with my Linksys G card? Based on reviews, the Pre-N Belkin router seems to have insane range.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1668050,00.asp

http://reviews.cnet.com/Belkin_Wireless_Pre_N_router/4505-3319_7-30993672.html

 

[JackMDS]

You would need to get a pre 802.11n too.

Using a a pre 802.11n Wireless Source and a none pre 802.11n will result omly in 10% to 15% improvement.

:sun:

 

[kevnich2]

Actually, contrary to Jack's statement, I've heard SEVERAL people say that with the MIMO or pre-n routers, even if they are used with G or B cards, they still give out better range. Yes, the output power and signal strength is the same, but the MIMO technology itself goes farther distances. And yes, several people I know have had horrible or no signals in certain parts and put in a MIMO router (belkin pre-n is based off of MIMO) and the dead spots now had enough signal to get an ok connection. Hope this answers your question better.

 

[thirdlegstump]

sweet kevnich2, that's what I wanted to hear. I shall be getting the Belkin unit sometime soon then.

 

[Changlinn]

yeah but belkin...eeeww... heheh
I think I would wait for it to be ratified, it will be better once it is and then it will interoperate and you won't have problems like they did with pre-g and b+ "standards"...

 

[ktwebb]

Well there wasn't any consumer grade pre-b standards. .11b had been out for a year or more before you started seeing it available by the retail shops and online consumer shops. I had been installing it for at least that long before Linksys,DLink etc..gear became available. From my recollection I don't think I read a single post on any of the boards I frequent of people saying their Pre-G hardware didn't work with ratified gear. At least not after they flashed the firmware. It's still a risk, I'll give you that but if you want the latest and greatest and have the extra cash I'd say give it a shot.

 

[Changlinn]

yeah i didn't hear of any consumer grade pre-b, but there were definately hodge-podge non-standards that where pre-G and there were some pre-g that were supposed to be forwards compatible to g, most were, some weren't, the ieee are there for a reason, stick with the standards they produce not the standards dlink, belkin etc come up with guessing they will become the standard