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Hayabusa Rider

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These guys just don't get it that the people they say constantly say hateful shit about are our friends, coworkers, and family members.

That was the most difficult thing to deal with but there are always consequences to any actions. I won't be doing a repeat.
 

Younigue

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You don't create a thread on a message board while on vacation about someone you are on vacation with unless they are ruining your vacation. I'm just saying.
I hear ya.
Hay, you might want to reconsider subjecting yourself to people like him... Especially on vacation. I (we) don't let anything ruin our vacations... Flat tire/bent rim, gallbladder surgery, dog in heat, someone scratching our car when they moved it for us without out permission. I consider a Trump supporter worse than all those things combined x 10.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I hear ya.
Hay, you might want to reconsider subjecting yourself to people like him... Especially on vacation. I (we) don't let anything ruin our vacations... Flat tire/bent rim, gallbladder surgery, dog in heat, someone scratching our car when they moved it for us without out permission. I consider a Trump supporter worse than all those things combined x 10.

Don't worry, I won't be repeating this again. I didn't expect this before I went but now that I know? Nope.
 
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Charles William

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I feel for you. Whatever happens, don't utilize "Hillary" and flee in the event that any other person does. It scrambles their neurotransmitters totally. It's not exactly like Dr Strangelove's arm flying into a Nazi salute, however comparable.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Good for you. What's your wife think of him?

Her perspective is different. He seemed to save his crap for me when she and her friend was talking. She knew I wasn't happy with the situation and on one hand wanted to get me out of there but sees her friend rarely as she's a days drive away. It wasn't how he processed the world but the impact he was having on her friend and that I wasn't enjoying myself. I've been around him before but nothing like this happened. She's about personal relationships more than politics. She doesn't approve of his nonsense nor his views BTW.

Well live and learn I suppose.
 

Younigue

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Her perspective is different. He seemed to save his crap for me when she and her friend was talking. She knew I wasn't happy with the situation and on one hand wanted to get me out of there but sees her friend rarely as she's a days drive away. It wasn't how he processed the world but the impact he was having on her friend and that I wasn't enjoying myself. I've been around him before but nothing like this happened. She's about personal relationships more than politics. She doesn't approve of his nonsense nor his views BTW.

Well live and learn I suppose.
I have a friend that when she accepted her boyfriend's marriage proposal I outright told her that he would never be welcome in my home and he would never be included in anything we plan. I told her it was up to her whether she wanted to continue the friendship under those conditions.

We're still friends. They've been married for 2 years now.

He's one of the worst human beings I've ever known in my life. She's changed some but she's mostly just a bumbler. Unaffected and unwilling to have opinions.

I had never put much thought in to luck before meeting her but if bad luck is a thing she has it often times very comically. There are many stories but I'll only share one. She was staying with my husband and me after she divorced her first husband. She took transit to work every morning. While waiting to cross the street one morning a car passed her and someone tossed a water balloon at her.

One more story, she showed up to a first "date" (friends with benefits scenario) with this guy we knew and he answered the door in full drag and wearing a cock ring. She went through with it even though she had no previous knowledge that he was a cross dresser. Added note: he is now a she.

Any way, I digress. It would be cool for your wife if she were able to do as I did with my friend.

We had already stopped camping together (due to my arthritis) when she married him but if we could still go camping it would be sans her husband.
 

FirNaTine

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Sorry if this has already been posted, my browser was hijacked several times by a lucky spin ad trying to read through.

Anyway, I recommend an IPA. (I'm actually more if a porter/stout fan but I find picking a strong IPA works best.) You can usually get one in the 7.5-8.5% range so it only takes a few to take the edge off of the conversation.

And if you suddenly realize you made a nasty expression at one of their comments, quickly look down at the bottle and say something to the effect of wow, this beer is really bitter, but my friend swore I had to try it. If you slip several times, mix in "I'd rather just have a Great American Beer" and quickly scan the room for the sponsor of their favorite NASCAR driver.

If they're still talking after that, you might have to improvise a bit on the routine. After a few beers (depending on your tolerance for both beer and BS), say it's really catching up to you and you need to get some rest and politely excuse yourself. If you have a finished the whole six pack (or more) "Danger Will Robinson!" Leave now before you slip completely and share your true feelings. Oh, drink at least a bottle of water, take (or leave out a couple aspirin) for the morning.
 

Muse

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I'm stuck in a camper with a Trumper. He started in on Hillary and I went into how the French revolution played out and the cycles of history.
One of my cousins is married to a guy who was probably loaded with this stuff and he's the kind of guy who if you get him started, you were going to hear it, yeah, "in spades and Trumps!" It was at last Thanksgiving and I was staying with my sister in a hotel and she asked me not to bring it up, so I didn't. Still, I was and still am curious to hear what he would have said. They listen to a lot of shit on the radio, all the time, and I'm sure he was chock full of it.
 

Geekbabe

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Well, I'll "tell you wut " . . . ;-))

Im'a edumacating you. You posted on these forums in obvious ignorance of Jean, whom I never claimed "owns" this statement globally, but who definitely has pride of place in the use of "smack you with a trout" here on ATF, having employed it as "a gurrlll 'standing her ground' with great good humor amongst the boyz" here since 1999 or so, becoming rightfully famous for her use of it here . . . something well known by our long time and even, many of our somewhat shorter time members.

Just sayin', is all.
Time to bring the trout out of retirement eh? :)
 
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Geekbabe

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I work in a field where we don’t discuss politics & are expected to treat clients & coworkers with respect. Kill them with kindness, then go home & relax with people that don’t think it’s “ god’s will that I should suffer like Jesus before dying of my cancer”

The dental hygienist was so totally in the wrong, you were in a vulnerable position & she should not have inflicted her political views on you. I’d find another dentist.
 
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MooseNSquirrel

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Missed opportunity! I always try to out crazy Trump supporters with insane conspiracy theories. Conspiracies lie at the foundation of their world, you cant change their minds, but you can go full Andy Kaufman on them.

Pro tip - vague allegations that mention real but non causational things are the best. You cant prove the causa tion but man can you believe in it! See the whole Hillary thing for a great example, or JFK.
 

Jhhnn

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One of my cousins is married to a guy who was probably loaded with this stuff and he's the kind of guy who if you get him started, you were going to hear it, yeah, "in spades and Trumps!" It was at last Thanksgiving and I was staying with my sister in a hotel and she asked me not to bring it up, so I didn't. Still, I was and still am curious to hear what he would have said. They listen to a lot of shit on the radio, all the time, and I'm sure he was chock full of it.


Talk radio bores right into their brains, right past their conscious minds to where they live, their emotional core.
 

desy

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Its usually one position people hold near and dear. If you want to change minds you have to go after the other failings because nobody changes their world view easily.