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Darwin333

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Ask the person to explain which of the President’s policies has personally benefited him. Ask for specifics.

NOOOOO!! DO NOT FOLLOW THIS ADVICE! Just smile and nod and change the subject to anything else, or choke them out and dig a hole to bury them in. Dealers choice but at least around here holes are a pain in the ass to dig beyond 2ish feet so make sure you really mean it before taking the latter option.

PS: For gods sake, don't get all stabby on them either. That makes cleaning up soooo much harder and the likelihood of getting caught so much higher, that is why I suggest getting the piss drunk and choking them out.
 

Darwin333

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How about telling him that you are a facts kind of guy and ask him if he has a good source for whatever claim he is making. When he gives you some bullshit source, ask him why he this that's a good source. Continue questioning him but never as if you are talking down to him. Instead, pretend you are a young child who asks a question and whose answer only results the child asking, "why".

Continue down this path and eventually he'll come to a wall and either give up trying to talk to you or he will start to question himself. Both are good.

However this is no easy task and the amount of frustration you'll likely go through may not be worth it.

No, just NO. You are inviting one, or both, parties to get stabby! As I explained, stabby=bad for the OP regardless of who is doing the stabbing.
 

Vic

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I had to deal with something similar recently. I"m at the dentist getting my teeth cleaned last month and the hygienist goes fucking batshit. She's a 50-something divorcee who's upset because she can't find a husband because she's "a Christian and a Republican." Turns out the rich guy she's been dating won't commit because he can't get past first base. And she wants him to commit because her real god is money, but her "Christian values" get in the way. And then she goes into a long rant about how Democrats are evil because equal rights for everyone somehow mean fewer rights for white Christians, and then this devolves into some outrageously un-Christian nonsense about how minorities, the homeless, and the poor deserve what they get because Christ "demands consequences."
All this while I'm getting my teeth cleaned and unable to say anything back. I fucking shit you not.
I've been seeing this dentist for like 20 years, and he does great work (I'm of British heritage and grew up without fluoridated water, so yeah, I've needed some work), and we've discussed politics in the past, and I've known he's hardcore Republican and never had a problem with it, but.. I think I need to find another dentist..
 
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I had to deal with something similar recently. I"m at the dentist getting my teeth cleaned last month and the hygienist goes fucking batshit. She's a 50-something divorcee who's upset because she can't find a husband because she's "a Christian and a Republican." Turns out the rich guy she's been dating won't commit because he can't get past first base. And she wants him to commit because her real god is money, but her "Christian values" get in the way. And then she goes into a long rant about how Democrats are evil because equal rights for everyone somehow mean fewer rights for white Christians, and then this devolves into some outrageously un-Christian nonsense about how minorities, the homeless, and the poor deserve what they get because Christ "demands consequences."
All this while I'm getting my teeth cleaned and unable to say anything back. I fucking shit you not.
I've been seeing this dentist for like 20 years, and he does great work (I'm of British heritage and grew up without fluoridated water, so yeah, I've needed some work), and we've discussed politics in the past, and I've known he's hardcore Republican and never had a problem with it, but.. I think I need to find another dentist..


You reminded me of this post. If you keep asking her about her beliefs this seems spot on
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Moonbeam

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I think you ask for advise because you know how dangerous you are and feel guilty about the damage you could do if you got angrily confrontational. The problem with being more conscious than other people is that you know it's your moral duty to take the shitty end of the stick because those less conscious comparatively have no idea what they are doing. There is only love and the idiot you are trapped with loves the good even though he or she has no idea what the good really is. The issue really is that we don't even believe in ourselves so we feel the need to make others see. There is one truth and it covers us all regardless of whether anybody sees that or not. And whatever you do in the situation you are in will be just fine by me. :)
 

Hayabusa Rider

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He was complaining to someone about obamaphones. Seriously. Yesterday.
Talk motorcycles, women, fishing, injuries and sports instead of politics.

Funny you should mention motorcycles. Naturally he's a Harley guy so i asked him what he'll do in the likely event the tariffs and Trump's boycott kills HD.

He had no idea and no answer.
 

Perknose

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That died when mIRC died :(
You are speaking in regrettable ignorance of our forum history.

Geekbabe, (Jean) started this meme here long before you came on the scene, and is rightfully famous for it here (bolded in anticipation of your response.)

Here she is referencing her multiple employments of the phrase from years before 2002.
 

Perknose

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I'm stuck in a camper with a Trumper. He started in on Hillary and I went into how the French revolution played out and the cycles of history.
Oh, Mama! What we have here is a definite failure to communicate. You may as well be speaking in Chinese to him. :eek:
 
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You are speaking in regrettable ignorance of our forum history.

Geekbabe, (Jean) started this meme here long before you came on the scene, and is rightfully famous for it here (bolded in anticipation of your response.)

Here she is referencing her multiple employments of the phrase from years before 2002.
Uh wut?

I never claimed ownership of it, but IIRC it's an old adage from IRC. Long before 2002, and certainly no one from AT Owns the statement.

Edit: See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Whacking_with_a_wet_trout
 
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Perknose

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Uh wut?

I never claimed ownership of it, but IIRC it's an old adage from IRC. Long before 2002, and certainly no one from AT Owns the statement.

Edit: See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Whacking_with_a_wet_trout
Well, I'll "tell you wut " . . . ;-))

Im'a edumacating you. You posted on these forums in obvious ignorance of Jean, whom I never claimed "owns" this statement globally, but who definitely has pride of place in the use of "smack you with a trout" here on ATF, having employed it as "a gurrlll 'standing her ground' with great good humor amongst the boyz" here since 1999 or so, becoming rightfully famous for her use of it here . . . something well known by our long time and even, many of our somewhat shorter time members.

Just sayin', is all.
 
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K1052

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I had to deal with something similar recently. I"m at the dentist getting my teeth cleaned last month and the hygienist goes fucking batshit. She's a 50-something divorcee who's upset because she can't find a husband because she's "a Christian and a Republican." Turns out the rich guy she's been dating won't commit because he can't get past first base. And she wants him to commit because her real god is money, but her "Christian values" get in the way. And then she goes into a long rant about how Democrats are evil because equal rights for everyone somehow mean fewer rights for white Christians, and then this devolves into some outrageously un-Christian nonsense about how minorities, the homeless, and the poor deserve what they get because Christ "demands consequences."
All this while I'm getting my teeth cleaned and unable to say anything back. I fucking shit you not.
I've been seeing this dentist for like 20 years, and he does great work (I'm of British heritage and grew up without fluoridated water, so yeah, I've needed some work), and we've discussed politics in the past, and I've known he's hardcore Republican and never had a problem with it, but.. I think I need to find another dentist..

At least request a different dental tech. I wouldn't have lasted 20% of that before getting up and saying "Nope. I don't fucking think so." and leaving. I hate going to the dentist already so the bullshit I'm willing to put up with is basically zero. Certainly not going to allow some loon to buttonhole me like that.

So happy my dental office is staffed by a crew of very efficient hispanic women who just all gossip to each other in Spanish. They don't know I can kinda understand them heh.
 
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Younigue

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At least request a different dental tech. I wouldn't have lasted 20% of that before getting up and saying "Nope. I don't fucking think so." and leaving. I hate going to the dentist already so the bullshit I'm willing to put up with is basically zero. Certainly not going to allow some loon to buttonhole me like that.

So happy my dental office is staffed by a crew of very efficient hispanic women who just all gossip to each other in Spanish. They don't know I can kinda understand them heh.
I would have left as well but I would have called he stupid first.

My dental hygienist is just the most precious (almost as short as me) bundle of joy and positive energy! I even made her a humorous Valentine's card one year *because I had an appointment on Valentine's day (!!!).
 

Perknose

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One day I'll have to tell you about the best blues experience a white kid could be blessed with.
A groupie I was catching a ride across country with introduced me to Miles Davis at the Ann Arbor Blues Festival in 1972. He didn't like me.

Does this count? :cool:
 

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A groupie I was catching a ride across country with introduced me to Miles Davis at the Ann Arbor Blues Festival in 1972. He didn't like me.

Does this count? :cool:

Miles Davis didn't like anyone :D

OK, pre-riot Arkansas. I was a tyke and my grandparents neighbor was 80+ and well known in the local black community for his goodness and proper charity. The man was a Christian like they ought to be and color never mattered one bit. He was included in some otherwise exclusive things and with permission got into his early fifties beat up truck and we had a little convoy to a BBO place I don't know where. I think I was 5 or 6, don't really remember but when it got dark people came in (all black because that's how it was except for my neighbor and me) and guitars, women and drink too. I was a little nervous because I've seen none of this but I was a welcome curiousity, just a pup who listened to music I never heard before and sat on the laps of "professional" women and cooed over. I hadn't thought about it until your earlier post and for some reason it came back as best as memory can serve. I was even given a guitar which had no idea about, never seen one before, but bless everyone they treated me right.

EDIT "given" to hold and try, not to keep. No one took another's instruments.
 
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Younigue

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Miles Davis didn't like anyone :D

OK, pre-riot Arkansas. I was a tyke and my grandparents neighbor was 80+ and well known in the local black community for his goodness and proper charity. The man was a Christian like they ought to be and color never mattered one bit. He was included in some otherwise exclusive things and with permission got into his early fifties beat up truck and we had a little convoy to a BBO place I don't know where. I think I was 5 or 6, don't really remember but when it got dark people came in (all black because that's how it was except for my neighbor and me) and guitars, women and drink too. I was a little nervous because I've seen none of this but I was a welcome curiousity, just a pup who listened to music I never heard before and sat on the laps of "professional" women and cooed over. I hadn't thought about it until your earlier post and for some reason it came back as best as memory can serve. I was even given a guitar which had no idea about, never seen one before, but bless everyone they treated me right.

EDIT "given" to hold and try, not to keep. No one took another's instruments.
What a fun memory!
 

Perknose

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Miles Davis didn't like anyone :D

OK, pre-riot Arkansas. I was a tyke and my grandparents neighbor was 80+ and well known in the local black community for his goodness and proper charity. The man was a Christian like they ought to be and color never mattered one bit. He was included in some otherwise exclusive things and with permission got into his early fifties beat up truck and we had a little convoy to a BBO place I don't know where. I think I was 5 or 6, don't really remember but when it got dark people came in (all black because that's how it was except for my neighbor and me) and guitars, women and drink too. I was a little nervous because I've seen none of this but I was a welcome curiousity, just a pup who listened to music I never heard before and sat on the laps of "professional" women and cooed over. I hadn't thought about it until your earlier post and for some reason it came back as best as memory can serve. I was even given a guitar which had no idea about, never seen one before, but bless everyone they treated me right.

EDIT "given" to hold and try, not to keep. No one took another's instruments.
That's one beautiful story, Rich!
 

Hayabusa Rider

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"Thou shall not kill... thou shalt not kill..."

He's a racist and Hillary murdered people.

Last day.
 

zinfamous

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"Thou shall not kill... thou shalt not kill..."

He's a racist and Hillary murdered people.

Last day.

Last day for the shit-your-pants technique, you mean? Come on man, it really works. You could also try to induce some eye-bleeding, or maybe severe red-eye? Grab some chili powder and rub it in your eyes, maybe?
 

Younigue

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"Thou shall not kill... thou shalt not kill..."

He's a racist and Hillary murdered people.

Last day.
I just came in here to check on ya Hay.

I guess it's good news that the Trumper is alive and kicking.

Prayer works! <--- just kidding, I'm not religious like that but your sanity prevailed and that sir is impressive. Well done!