prankster reading the Bible and people thought it was the Quran

[DrDoug]

The best way to believe in the bible is to remain totally ignorant of what it says. If people had to read, understand and live their lives by that shit Christianity would have a smaller following than Milli Vanilli's twitter feed.

If it wasn't for Milli Vanilli I wouldn't have made $106.00. A local radio station (KEZE - Rock 106 FM) where I used to live had a morning show where they gave $106.00 for the best answer to the question of the day. That day it was "How you would describe Milli Vanilli?" I decided to call in (for first and last time ever) and said "Milli Vanilli is what the Secret Service calls the piles that the Bush's dog, Milli, leaves on the lawn around the White House".

Next thing I know I'm on the radio live and telling my answer. Game over, I won...lol! I was sent a check and a cassette (!) of Extreme II - Pornograffiti.

Milli Vanilli sucked sewage but at least I made money off of them!

 

[Ruptga]

Would love to see a Christian with anti Muslim views respond to that.

"If they tried this in America it would result in one of our weekly mass shootings"

 

[ElFenix]

both the quran and the old testament were written by desert hill people. turns out they didn't change all that much over the centuries.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

What's scary though is how many people follow Christianity that don't know stuff like that is in the bible.

I dunno, I would think it's much more scary for people to know it is in there and take it seriously. :hmm:

 

[Fanatical Meat]

It's been on the rise for much longer than that.

http://www.theonion.com/article/98-homosexual-recruitment-drive-nearing-goal-536

But you're right; as soon as the stigma is removed, all the cool kids want to do it.

Or is it as soon as the stigma is removed, all the cool kids stop doing it?

Umm link is to "the onion"...

 

[BurnItDwn]

Umm link is to "the onion"...

Ever since BBspot went into hiatus, the onion has been the official newspaper of ATOT.

 

[zinfamous]

It is fun and somewhat relevant to poke fun of such things, but I think it is far more telling to compare the current practice of the majority of the world's Christians to those of the world's Muslims.

I think we can all agree that much of Christianity has left those pre-enlightenment moral codes behind, (except for the occasional hillbilly and those that try to defend hillbillies), compared to the Majority of muslims that, extremist and violent or not, will still harbor some rather barbaric standards towards treating people within their own family.

Best thing to take from this is that Christianity has actually come a long way while Islam clearly has a lot of internal bloodletting with which it rid itself it if ever wants to reach a comparable relevance in developed societies.

Of course that crap is in the Bible, and of course such commands from the same god are no better than what Mohamed tells his followers to do; but it is very important to realize that, in practice, you really don't see this behavior from Christians as you do with many of today's Islamists.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Ramen

Is that pronounced Rah-men or Ray-men? :sneaky:

 

[soulcougher73]

It is fun and somewhat relevant to poke fun of such things, but I think it is far more telling to compare the current practice of the majority of the world's Christians to those of the world's Muslims.

I think we can all agree that much of Christianity has left those pre-enlightenment moral codes behind, (except for the occasional hillbilly and those that try to defend hillbillies), compared to the Majority of muslims that, extremist and violent or not, will still harbor some rather barbaric standards towards treating people within their own family.

Best thing to take from this is that Christianity has actually come a long way while Islam clearly has a lot of internal bloodletting with which it rid itself it if ever wants to reach a comparable relevance in developed societies.

Of course that crap is in the Bible, and of course such commands from the same god are no better than what Mohamed tells his followers to do; but it is very important to realize that, in practice, you really don't see this behavior from Christians as you do with many of today's Islamists.

That's because today's Christians are not "true believers" in the bible. They just pick and choose what fits into modern society. Thus they shall be going to hell

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Is that pronounced Rah-men or Ray-men? :sneaky:

My default is that if there is no silent e at the end, I do not use the long vowel sound. If it turns out the word uses it anyways I discard it from my vocabulary. :biggrin:

 

[zinfamous]

That's because today's Christians are not "true believers" in the bible. They just pick and choose what fits into modern society. Thus they shall be going to hell

fine by me. false believers are better than true believers of any religion, because the words in those books are inherently identical.

plenty of true believing christians of the past went about violent murderous crusades and such. Not one religion seems immune from this.

I'd rather live among the largely non-murderous false believers than the frankly murderous true believers.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Is that pronounced Rah-men or Ray-men? :sneaky:

If you don't know you're not yet ready to be touched by his Noodly Appendage.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Best thing to take from this is that Christianity has actually come a long way while Islam clearly has a lot of internal bloodletting with which it rid itself it if ever wants to reach a comparable relevance in developed societies.

No, what we can take from it is that Christians are liars who claim to believe in a religion and don't practice it because it's illegal, immoral or simply inconvenient. While most Muslims are still living in the stone age at least the majority of them have faith in their faith. Christians don't and if forced to live by the actual mandates laid down by their religion they would not be Christians.

 

[zinfamous]

No, what we can take from it is that Christians are liars who claim to believe in a religion and don't practice it because it's illegal, immoral or simply inconvenient. While most Muslims are still living in the stone age at least the majority of them have faith in their faith. Christians don't and if forced to live by the actual mandates laid down by their religion they would not be Christians.

hey man, whatever. Still, they are the ones doing far less killing vis-a-vis religion right now.

In the end, that is truly all that matters to society.

Believe in what you want, fine. Don't force that on me, my kids, and the general educated public, fine. Start using that to kill? not fine.

 

[WelshBloke]

hey man, whatever. Still, they are the ones doing far less killing vis-a-vis religion right now.

In the end, that is truly all that matters to society.

This is absolutely true.

However it leaves the religion in a funny place. Christians are left saying "Well because we don't follow or believe our religion fully its less violent."

 

[disappoint]

Is that pronounced Rah-men or Ray-men? :sneaky:

My default is that if there is no silent e at the end, I do not use the long vowel sound. If it turns out the word uses it anyways I discard it from my vocabulary. :biggrin:

The noodles come in 3 flavors: Gentile, Apostate and Heathen. So they are no longer referred to as Ramen noodles. Now they are GAH! noodles.

 

[Imp]

Germanic languages are awesome. What sucks is Latin. You could take the prettiest poem ever written, and it would sound like you're summoning demons when recited in Latin.

I don't know what it is with English... it sounds like shit when old operas or old classical music is translated from Italian, German, etc.

Speaking of German, personally debating whether I should learn it or not. But it's useless outside Germany and an African or South American country or two. Going around saying "nein" might be worth it.

 

[Retro Rob]

No, what we can take from it is that Christians are liars who claim to believe in a religion and don't practice it because it's illegal, immoral or simply inconvenient. While most Muslims are still living in the stone age at least the majority of them have faith in their faith. Christians don't and if forced to live by the actual mandates laid down by their religion they would not be Christians.

LOL - an atheist commending Muslims for "having faith in their faith" (assuming you mean the killing of infidels parts of it).

You can lead an atheist to logic, but you can't make them use it...

 

[WelshBloke]

LOL - an atheist commending Muslims for "having faith in their faith" (assuming you mean the killing of infidels parts of it).

You can lead an atheist to logic, but you can't make them use it...

Well logically what he says makes sense. Its not a question of commending them.

Where do you find fault in his logic?

If you don't actually believe in your religion whats the point of it?

 

[Retro Rob]

If you don't actually believe in your religion whats the point of it?

That's not YOUR problem, that's theirs, nor is it GagHalfrunt's.

My point is that why does it matter to YOU if people practice their religion or not?

On the flip side, if they actually "believed" in it, and tried to kill you, you'd surely not approve of that.

That's why his point is illogical.

 

[core2slow]

Another Holy War is among us...

 

[zinfamous]

That's not YOUR problem, that's theirs, nor is it GagHalfrunt's.

My point is that why does it matter to YOU if people practice their religion or not?

On the flip side, if they actually "believed" in it, and tried to kill you, you'd surely not approve of that.

That's why his point is illogical.

what he is saying is that jihadist radical muslim folks follow every word of their book as the literal truth, as commands that they must follow. In this rationale, they aren't wrong. Moderate muslims don't go about killing, but more often than not, they submit that the words are just as true as true as can be...they just aren't into the killing part.

whatever it is worth, the same exists in the Bible whether or not you or anyone wants to admit it. It is one thing to go balls out and claim that every word is literally the divine word of god and commit to it, and yet another to claim that this other text is also the divine word of god and is the truth! (well, only some of it--not the violence and rape and killing parts. Not those parts. OK, well, they were once true but not anymore. We got over it long ago...but this other stuff! Of course that is all true! It is in fact more true than the other stuff we we try to ignore! Why? Well, because it is. It's true. Shut up.) :\

The bolded is pretty much the heart of the issue that the world is currently facing, no? I mean, does it not matter to you that ISIS is simply practicing their religion? Does it not affect you or others in any way?

I argue that it does.

 

[Retro Rob]

what he is saying is that jihadist radical muslim folks follow every word of their book as the literal truth, as commands that they must follow. In this rationale, they aren't wrong. Moderate muslims don't go about killing, but more often than not, they submit that the words are just as true as true as can be...they just aren't into the killing part.

whatever it is worth, the same exists in the Bible whether or not you or anyone wants to admit it. It is one thing to go balls out and claim that every word is literally the divine word of god and commit to it, and yet another to claim that this other text is also the divine word of god and is the truth! (well, only some of it--not the violence and rape and killing parts. Not those parts. OK, well, they were once true but not anymore. We got over it long ago...but this other stuff! Of course that is all true! It is in fact more true than the other stuff we we try to ignore! Why? Well, because it is. It's true. Shut up.) :\

The bolded is pretty much the heart of the issue that the world is currently facing, no? I mean, does it not matter to you that ISIS is simply practicing their religion? Does it not affect you or others in any way?

I argue that it does.

I guess what I'm saying is that its a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" with these people.

You don't "follow" your religion, you're a hypocrite and a liar. You "follow" it, and you're a subhuman terrorist.

 

[WelshBloke]

That's not YOUR problem, that's theirs, nor is it GagHalfrunt's.

My point is that why does it matter to YOU if people practice their religion or not?

It doesn't really matter to me, I was commenting on the logical position.

On the flip side, if they actually "believed" in it, and tried to kill you, you'd surely not approve of that.

That's why we should fight for secular values.

That's why his point is illogical.

Still not following your logic.

You seem to be saying that it's more logical to follow something that you don't believe in. Then why follow it at all.

 

[Retro Rob]

It doesn't really matter to me, I was commenting on the logical position.

Fair.

That's why we should fight for secular values.

"Secular values" is not the solution, either. I recall one of the most (if not THE most) bloodiest centuries on record being the MOST secular century, the 20th.

You seem to be saying that it's more logical to follow something that you don't believe in. Then why follow it at all.

I'm saying it makes no sense to condemn people for"following" their religion and then also condemn them for NOT "following" it.

Anyone "following" their religion are deemed terrorists, and those not are called "liars".