PPPoE is Evil...how do I get around it?

[MichaelD]

This is post #307 in my quest for DSL bliss. (BTW, my DSL SHOULD be activated by the time I get home tonite )

I've been reading the forums over at DSLREPORTS.com, and have determined that PPPoe is a very bad thing indeed. My Westell Wirespeed DSL modem and my Netgear router both support PPPoe, but from what I've read PPPoE causes nothing but super slow IP addy links and super slow downloads. I'm pretty sure that the SBW CDR that I have to load in order for my modem to link me with SWB's site, so I can get a username/p-word will load PPPoE onto my HD.

Is there some other way I can get around it? I'm pretty handy as far as installing drivers and editing files goes, but I am a DSL/CABLE newbie. I need some advice, but please speak to me in Networking for Morons language. I'm not fluent in A++-CC+PPoIP.cfg type language. Thanks.

 

[erub]

Yeah, buy a static IP

 

[Jhereg]

If you buy a cable/DSL router.. most have PPoE in firmware so your machine is not burdened with software. I have noticed an increase in performance of my computer after switching from software PPoE to router firmware

 

[Narse]

Erub is right on this one, If your using a Dynamic IP with your DSL service you are forced to use some type of PPoE protocol. I have DSL and it uses PPoE. The best one out there is one called RASPPoE, I had alot of problems out of WinPoet and NTS but not one out of RAS, I get really great DL speeds with mine

 

[Pretty Cool]

Since your router already supports PPPoE, simply uninstall the software after you have established your username and password. In fact, your router probably will not work if the Winpoet is still in your system.

 

[mikejae]

Another vote for RasPPPoe. I got my speed stream external modem hooked up to the uplink port of my hub and the hub connected to all my comps. U can run RasPPPoe on each comp and log onto the internet by using that. I have Earthlink DSL 1.5mps and they allow up to 3 comps logged in simultaneously. I think they have a sale now, 1.5 for 40 bucks with 99 install fee. I pay 50 a month but got free modem and free professional installation. So it would even out in 10 months, so I guess they are just tricking new users to sign up. Good offer if it passes 10 months though. If you got a different service provider like Verizon then they are only 0.6 mps and charge 40 bucks and only allow 1 user logged in at a time so you will have to software NAT to share your connection.
I see you have a router so I don't know if the setup is any different.

 

[MichaelD]

Thanks very much for all the great replies. I just remembered something that throws yet another wrench into the works; I've got the CDR that came with the DSL modem. But I'm supposed to be getting an "Internet Software" CDR from ASI (the service provider) sometime soon. What the heck is on that CDR? I.E./Netscape/other utilities?

I think I'm just going to try this:
1. Load SWB software.
2. Login to whatever site it directs me to, get username/p-word
3. See what I can then uninstall..PPPoE comes to mind.
4. Test drive it. Run some DSLREPORT.com speed tests
5. Install router inline, load software for router
6. Hope to the PC Gods that it all works!
7. Drink beer.

Sounds like a plan to me! Wish me luck! When I first got dialup, I never even used the CDR they sent and everything worked fine. I know that DSL is greatly more complex though. We shall see what happens. I'll post my results.

 

[kami]

Umm, I've been running PPPoE DSL for almost a year and a half and I have no speed problems. I am always at my theoretical maximum that my ISP advertises. (1Mbps download, 128Kbps upload) I use the default software that they gave me, except I upgrade it when new versions come out. I also have the registry patch from speedguide.net applied.

 

[Pretty Cool]

Your steps should be:

1. Install the software. It will probably be Enternet.
2. Get your username/password.
3. Test your connection by going to DSLreports.com.
4. Remove the PPPoE software.
5. Physically connect your router. (Not familiar with Netgear, but Linksys uses no extra software)
6. Test to see if your computer recognizes the router.
7. Adjust the settings of your router (username/password)
8. Test the connection.
9. Done.

 

[TimeKeeper]

I also have PPPoe-dynamic-ISP from Verizon for more than a year now.

1. I don't see how it can so bad compare to static.
2. I would highly recommend using RasPPPoe, instead of PPPoe.
3. I don't see why you need a Router? If want you to share internet among PCs, all you need is a simple hub, without messing w/ any firmware, ICS, nor configuration!!!!!!!!

Now, tell me why PPPoE can be so bad? (save you time, and MONEY, by no need to buy a router)

 

[Mday]

here is what i say:

install a better PPPoE program.

or

get a piece of hardware (router) which supports PPPoE.

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when i had verizon, i used a beta version of winpoet other than the one they supplied. that was good. then i got my linksys router which had PPPoE support, and that was even better.

NOW!!!!

verizon is no longer my isp, so i now have a static IP =) and it's EVEN BETTER!!!!!!