PP&C -vs- Seasonic

Zepper

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I would not buy any 1kW PSU. I would buy two moderate PSUs and a case to hold them like a Stacker STC-T01 and pocket the change. Zippy and Etasis make equally good PSUs to PCP&C and Seasonic. While companies like Fortron and Enhance make PSUs that are more than adequate for normal applications.

.bh.
 

AmberClad

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I'm not aware of any ridiculous kilowatt PSUs made by SeaSonic...

But in any case, OCZ (I guess OCZ and PCP&P are the same company now anyway...) also makes kilowatt PSUs.
 

DaveSimmons

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Unless you are silly enough to want to SLI 2 x 8800GTX there is no sane reason to buy a 1KW PSU.

If you are debt-free, have several months' worth of living expenses set aside, are earning over $80K a year, have maxed out your 401k and Roth, are putting aside money for a house down payment, and still have the spare cash to do this, then go ahead.

But consider this: you spend all of this extra money now, and in 6 months the 8900GTX and ATI 2950 are out.
 

krotchy

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Lets compare a company who makes a 1000w PSU to one that doesnt in a poll about 1000w PSU's. Im confused.


That being said, I prefer seasonic PSU's for their efficiency, as most builds can easily suffice with a high quality 550W or 650W psu without issue.
 

coolpurplefan

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Originally posted by: AmberClad
I'm not aware of any ridiculous kilowatt PSUs made by SeaSonic...

But in any case, OCZ (I guess OCZ and PCP&P are the same company now anyway...) also makes kilowatt PSUs.

I'm not sure if it's ridiculous. Overclock two high-end video cards, a CPU and have a bundle of Raptors going and you're looking at serious power consumption. Use the extreme outervision PSU calculator and you'll find rigs these days can consume a lot.

BTW, if you overclocked an HD2900 XT, what would that consume...300 watts perhaps? Multiply that by two and you have 600 watts plus 150 for CPU, 750 watts and we haven't counted several Raptors, motherboard, fans etc.

I suppose you can always use those video card PSUs if you don't have enough power.

 

AmberClad

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Originally posted by: coolpurplefan
Originally posted by: AmberClad
I'm not aware of any ridiculous kilowatt PSUs made by SeaSonic...

But in any case, OCZ (I guess OCZ and PCP&P are the same company now anyway...) also makes kilowatt PSUs.

I'm not sure if it's ridiculous. Overclock two high-end video cards, a CPU and have a bundle of Raptors going and you're looking at serious power consumption. Use the extreme outervision PSU calculator and you'll find rigs these days can consume a lot.

BTW, if you overclocked an HD2900 XT, what would that consume...300 watts perhaps? Multiply that by two and you have 600 watts plus 150 for CPU, 750 watts and we haven't counted several Raptors, motherboard, fans etc.

I suppose you can always use those video card PSUs if you don't have enough power.

Oh, I'm sure there are rigs out there that need that amount of power. But I'm one of the SPCR types, so a rig that's so much of a power hog that it needs a kilowatt PSU doesn't sit well with me :laugh:.
 

Puffnstuff

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Enermax galaxy 1k is the answer you seek. Guarranteed to run 24/7 at 50C at 100% load all day everyday. I run a galaxy 850w myself which more than meets my needs today and tomorrow.
 

Aluvus

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Seasonic makes some of the PCP&C supplies. I was actually under the impression that they made the 1 kW model.
 

Deinonych

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Originally posted by: Aluvus
Seasonic makes some of the PCP&C supplies. I was actually under the impression that they made the 1 kW model.

Are you sure about that? I know Seasonic is the OEM for Corsair, but I thought PCP&C made their own.
 

Quiksilver

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PCP&C makes their own PSU's but now that PCP&C is owned by OCZ, I guess OCZ psu's will become better.
Also that is correct, the OEM manufacture for corsair PSU's is Seasonic.

I personally would go with seasonic, they don't cost as much and offer very good performance.
 

evilharp

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Originally posted by: Deinonych
Originally posted by: Aluvus
Seasonic makes some of the PCP&C supplies. I was actually under the impression that they made the 1 kW model.

Are you sure about that? I know Seasonic is the OEM for Corsair, but I thought PCP&C made their own.

PC Power & Cooling company was established in 1985 in San Diego, California, but eventually moved to its current location in Carlsbad, California. Even though initially the company specialized on development and manufacturing of its PSUs, in the recent years, like other makers of power supply units, it had to start outsourcing its products to third parties in Southeast Asia. At present, the company?s partners are FSP, Seasonic and Win-Tact Electronics Corp.

Link
 

Quiksilver

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Originally posted by: evilharp
Originally posted by: Deinonych
Originally posted by: Aluvus
Seasonic makes some of the PCP&C supplies. I was actually under the impression that they made the 1 kW model.

Are you sure about that? I know Seasonic is the OEM for Corsair, but I thought PCP&C made their own.

PC Power & Cooling company was established in 1985 in San Diego, California, but eventually moved to its current location in Carlsbad, California. Even though initially the company specialized on development and manufacturing of its PSUs, in the recent years, like other makers of power supply units, it had to start outsourcing its products to third parties in Southeast Asia. At present, the company?s partners are FSP, Seasonic and Win-Tact Electronics Corp.

Link

That really isn't specific, I mean if they're outsourcing their products wouldn't that necessarily mean that seansonic, fsp, and win-tact are all OEM products of PC&P? Not the other way around.
 

Aluvus

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Originally posted by: Deinonych
Originally posted by: Aluvus
Seasonic makes some of the PCP&C supplies. I was actually under the impression that they made the 1 kW model.

Are you sure about that? I know Seasonic is the OEM for Corsair, but I thought PCP&C made their own.

Seasonic is the OEM for Corsair, some Antec, some PC Power & Cooling, and probably others that I'm forgetting.

A little reading suggests the 1 kW Turbo-Cool is made by Win-Tact, not Seasonic.

There's a thread on HardForum that touches on some of this (and contains some possibly-real or possibly-fake) emails with then-CEO of PC Power, Doug Dodson. Here's a link.

Originally posted by: QuiksilverX1
PCP&C makes their own PSU's but now that PCP&C is owned by OCZ, I guess OCZ psu's will become better.
Also that is correct, the OEM manufacture for corsair PSU's is Seasonic.

I personally would go with seasonic, they don't cost as much and offer very good performance.

My understanding was that, beginning with the GameXStream, OCZ was shifting to Fortron as their OEM of choice, but I haven't kept up on whether they moved entirely to Fortron. I would not be surprised if they started using some of PC Power's OEMs, though.
 

Aluvus

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Originally posted by: QuiksilverX1

That really isn't specific, I mean if they're outsourcing their products wouldn't that necessarily mean that seansonic, fsp, and win-tact are all OEM products of PC&P? Not the other way around.

Seasonic (et. al.) is the OEM manufacturer for some PC Power products. Seasonic is also the OEM for some other brands, and also makes supplies to sell under its own brand. FSP makes supplies to sell under the OCZ, Antec, Zalman, SilenX, etc. brands but also under its own Fortron and Sparkle brands. Incidentally, FSP also contracts some other OEMs to manufacture some of the products it sells under its own brands.
 

Googer

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Originally posted by: Zepper
I would not buy any 1kW PSU. I would buy two moderate PSUs and a case to hold them like a Stacker STC-T01 and pocket the change. Zippy and Etasis make equally good PSUs to PCP&C and Seasonic. While companies like Fortron and Enhance make PSUs that are more than adequate for normal applications.

.bh.

But due to the inefficacy of your idea, you will pay the difference when your power bill comes at the end of every month.

EDIT: Two high end 500 watt PSU's can cost $200 each. That's $400 and the PC Power and Cooling unit is on sale in the neighborhood of $450-470 at pcpowerandcooling.com. Go for the single 1KW or silencer 750 and save some energy and case space.
 

Googer

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Originally posted by: QuiksilverX1
heh, i checked here. (really loving that site)
http://www.jonnyguru.com/SMPS_UL.htm

So it seems that is true.

"
Old Silencers built by Sparkle (now FSP.) Current Silencers built by Seasonic. Turbo-Cool built by Win-Tact."

I find that to be a bit questionable, there has been tons of companies named all of whom have been said to produce PC Power and Coolings Designs; yet no one can really nail it. And some say that PC Power and Cooling manufactures their own here in the USA (last US based manufacturer still standing). We need further proof.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: QuiksilverX1
heh, i checked here. (really loving that site)
http://www.jonnyguru.com/SMPS_UL.htm

So it seems that is true.

"
Old Silencers built by Sparkle (now FSP.) Current Silencers built by Seasonic. Turbo-Cool built by Win-Tact."

I find that to be a bit questionable, there has been tons of companies named all of whom have been said to produce PC Power and Coolings Designs; yet no one can really nail it.
Really now.
 

Googer

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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: QuiksilverX1
heh, i checked here. (really loving that site)
http://www.jonnyguru.com/SMPS_UL.htm

So it seems that is true.

"
Old Silencers built by Sparkle (now FSP.) Current Silencers built by Seasonic. Turbo-Cool built by Win-Tact."

I find that to be a bit questionable, there has been tons of companies named all of whom have been said to produce PC Power and Coolings Designs; yet no one can really nail it. And some say that PC Power and Cooling manufactures their own here in the USA (last US based manufacturer still standing). We need further proof.
Really now.

Yes, plenty of speculation but no hard proof.

EDIT: Please do not edit my quotes, use the full context.v:disgust:
 

cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: QuiksilverX1
heh, i checked here. (really loving that site)
http://www.jonnyguru.com/SMPS_UL.htm

So it seems that is true.

"
Old Silencers built by Sparkle (now FSP.) Current Silencers built by Seasonic. Turbo-Cool built by Win-Tact."

I find that to be a bit questionable, there has been tons of companies named all of whom have been said to produce PC Power and Coolings Designs; yet no one can really nail it. And some say that PC Power and Cooling manufactures their own here in the USA (last US based manufacturer still standing). We need further proof.

It's simple. Some models are made to PCP&C specs by one OEm and some models are made to their specs by a different OEM.

There was a HUGE thread about this on Hardocp a while back and cause one member who used to have big reviews and ratings of most of the PSUs out there, leave. This was because he said exactly this...that PCP&C does not manufacturer it's own PSU models, yet outsourced and the OEM was not allowed to use the same specs on a model marketed by them. Some OEM did, I forget who and PCP&C faught them for breach of contract.
 

Howard

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: QuiksilverX1
heh, i checked here. (really loving that site)
http://www.jonnyguru.com/SMPS_UL.htm

So it seems that is true.

"
Old Silencers built by Sparkle (now FSP.) Current Silencers built by Seasonic. Turbo-Cool built by Win-Tact."

I find that to be a bit questionable, there has been tons of companies named all of whom have been said to produce PC Power and Coolings Designs; yet no one can really nail it. And some say that PC Power and Cooling manufactures their own here in the USA (last US based manufacturer still standing). We need further proof.
Really now.

Yes, plenty of speculation but no hard proof.

EDIT: Please do not edit my quotes, use the full context.v:disgust:
How was the meaning changed?
 

Howard

Lifer
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Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: QuiksilverX1
heh, i checked here. (really loving that site)
http://www.jonnyguru.com/SMPS_UL.htm

So it seems that is true.

"
Old Silencers built by Sparkle (now FSP.) Current Silencers built by Seasonic. Turbo-Cool built by Win-Tact."

I find that to be a bit questionable, there has been tons of companies named all of whom have been said to produce PC Power and Coolings Designs; yet no one can really nail it. And some say that PC Power and Cooling manufactures their own here in the USA (last US based manufacturer still standing). We need further proof.

It's simple. Some models are made to PCP&C specs by one OEm and some models are made to their specs by a different OEM.

There was a HUGE thread about this on Hardocp a while back and cause one member who used to have big reviews and ratings of most of the PSUs out there, leave. This was because he said exactly this...that PCP&C does not manufacturer it's own PSU models, yet outsourced and the OEM was not allowed to use the same specs on a model marketed by them. Some OEM did, I forget who and PCP&C faught them for breach of contract.
I believe it was the Seasonic SS-750JS.
 

Googer

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Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: QuiksilverX1
heh, i checked here. (really loving that site)
http://www.jonnyguru.com/SMPS_UL.htm

So it seems that is true.

"
Old Silencers built by Sparkle (now FSP.) Current Silencers built by Seasonic. Turbo-Cool built by Win-Tact."

I find that to be a bit questionable, there has been tons of companies named all of whom have been said to produce PC Power and Coolings Designs; yet no one can really nail it. And some say that PC Power and Cooling manufactures their own here in the USA (last US based manufacturer still standing). We need further proof.

It's simple. Some models are made to PCP&C specs by one OEm and some models are made to their specs by a different OEM.

There was a HUGE thread about this on Hardocp a while back and cause one member who used to have big reviews and ratings of most of the PSUs out there, leave. This was because he said exactly this...that PCP&C does not manufacturer it's own PSU models, yet outsourced and the OEM was not allowed to use the same specs on a model marketed by them. Some OEM did, I forget who and PCP&C faught them for breach of contract.


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