Powermate compressor?

[maluckey1]

My 22 year old CH compressor that I use to run various air tools for shop work died last week. I have another Frankenstein (mix/match 60 gallon unit on it's last leg (internal tank rust and rattling in pump) Anyone have any experience with Powermate compressors (part of MAT Holdings, who also makes Industrial Air)? Powermate 60 Gal. Stationary Electric Air Compressor-PLA3706056 - The Home Depot

I figure that the price is cheap, and that my oil-free 5.1 CFM @ 90 PSI, 13 gallon (parts becoming scarce) that I use for general purpose (not painting/sanding) died recently, and that this compressor might replace 2 compressors (tools/painting) with just one.

Opinions? We all have one, and all opinions matter.

Thanks!

 

[herm0016]

you can get a Quincy for 1000.

Quincy Q13160VQ 3.5-HP 60-Gallon Belt Drive Single Stage Air Compressor 230V 1-Phase

Buy Quincy Q13160VQ Direct. Free Shipping. Check the Quincy 3.5-HP 60-Gallon (Belt Drive) Single Stage Air Compressor (230V 1-Phase) ratings before checking out.

www.aircompressorsdirect.com

I have used this company and their affiliated other sites and they have been good.

if you are using it for a business and rely on the air, I may look for something higher quality.
we always had a Quincy in our business, well, one Quincy that ran every day for hours for about 30 years.

my small rolair has also been fantastic, and our Honda powered rolair.

 

[maluckey1]

you can get a Quincy for 1000.

Quincy Q13160VQ 3.5-HP 60-Gallon Belt Drive Single Stage Air Compressor 230V 1-Phase

Buy Quincy Q13160VQ Direct. Free Shipping. Check the Quincy 3.5-HP 60-Gallon (Belt Drive) Single Stage Air Compressor (230V 1-Phase) ratings before checking out.

www.aircompressorsdirect.com

I have used this company and their affiliated other sites and they have been good.

if you are using it for a business and rely on the air, I may look for something higher quality.
we always had a Quincy in our business, well, one Quincy that ran every day for hours for about 30 years.

my small rolair has also been fantastic, and our Honda powered rolair.

That's a nice unit. It also puts out more CFM for less than 200 dollars more. Time to see if I can can convince my other half of the value added. Does Quincy still make these in the U.S.A.? I know that many moons ago that was the case.

I'm a hobbyist, with enough need (and projects) to step up from entry-level units. The cobbled to together unit I use for big jobs has had several motors and pumps bought off of E-bay over the years. None have lasted longer than a couple of years. I'd wager that I have as much invested in this junk as the Quincy that you linked.

 

[Greenman]

When you're looking at compressors, keep in mind that the CFM rating is at the inlet. The output will be a small fraction of it's rated capacity.

 

[mztykal]

I’d spend the 200 more for a IR or a Quincy. The Powermate looks like another CH compressor…you can get a Kobalt for cheaper if price is the concern…

 

[Greenman]

Rolair is pretty good.
The quiet Makita is nice as well.

 

[herm0016]

That's a nice unit. It also puts out more CFM for less than 200 dollars more. Time to see if I can can convince my other half of the value added. Does Quincy still make these in the U.S.A.? I know that many moons ago that was the case.

I'm a hobbyist, with enough need (and projects) to step up from entry-level units. The cobbled to together unit I use for big jobs has had several motors and pumps bought off of E-bay over the years. None have lasted longer than a couple of years. I'd wager that I have as much invested in this junk as the Quincy that you linked.

if you are serious about upgrading get a 2 stage pump. that's really where the good stuff starts. IR or Quincy, or something along those lines. i would consider the eastwood scroll compressor for a hobby shop as well.

 

[RLGL]

Ii have a CH 2 stage, dependable it is 30 years old. Where I worked we had 3 of them, no failures.

 

[maluckey1]

I’d spend the 200 more for a IR or a Quincy. The Powermate looks like another CH compressor…you can get a Kobalt for cheaper if price is the concern…

Price is only a minor concern, mainly because I'm a cash-only kinda guy. I also want to take longevity into the consideration. I'm digging into the who-makes-what and it's pretty ,,,,,,,, weird.

You're 100 percent right about it looking like a CH compressor!! I did some research, and for "Big-Box" brands there are really only 2 choices. Central Pneumatic (I've heard are rebranded Chinese-made FINI knockoff units) or MAT Holdings companies, which are: Powermate, MAT, Coleman, Campbell Hausfeld, Sanborn and Devilbiss. MAT makes Craftsman, Kobalt and Husky compressors as well as several others.

It seems that my budget might have to expand If I want to consolidate to one tank. I'm seeing cost and quality cutting until about 1200 dollar range. The Rolair, Belair and Quincy's above that price range are looking tempting. I'm just hoping that I'm not falling for marketing hype and "buyer affirmation/fan-boy reviews".

Worst-case scenario if I get analysis paralysis is that I drive on, just fixing what I have until it can't be fixed. I'm a hobbyist, so downtime is OK.

 

[mztykal]

Speaking from experience I’ve had good and bad luck with cheaper compressors. I had a 60 gallon Kobalt die in less than a year and a CH last 2 years. Also a Husky that’s still running after 15 years…

My current house I have wired up for one but due to costs haven’t picked one up. Will probably order a screw type compressor this time around…

 

[maluckey1]

I haven't looked at any of those, mainly because I don't run a shop, and dropping several thousand for hobby-auto-body and home-fleet work isn't happening.

Just found that the lower priced Quincy and Belair units are Chinese made and mostly Chinese sourced. Both are now owned by Altlas Copco. No wonder they look and perform similar!

The options are getting more about part-quality and warranty at this point. It appears that until you go semi-expensive, you have only a few manufacturers, and they seem to be cutting quality to meet a price point.

What I'm now feeling is: buy a better pump head for my 60 gallon, upgrade/replace the smaller compressor unit. This will STILL be less that a Quincy Q**** compressor.