Power window will only move up and down 6" and makes grinding noise at the top and bottom of its range

kalrith

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Last week I rolled down the window in my car, and it made a grinding noise about 2/3 of the way down. I went to roll it back up, and after 6 inches it made the same grinding noise. It moves fine within that range, but I can't get it to move any more. I took the door panels off last night and lubed everything. The gear is in a position to where I can't tap it with a hammer to get it to roll up, but I can to get it to roll down more. I did this, but it's still moving its 6" albeit a little lower than before.

I found this link which suggests the window regulators need to be replaced. Do you agree with this? If so, where would I find window regulators for such an old car?

Thanks!
 

boomerang

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Does your have the white tape with the holes in it? It's like a nylon ribbon with a series of square holes. Kind of hard to describe.

Edit: I'll just move forward before I get an answer.

I did a quick search and came up with following;

http://www.autopartsdeal.com/c...8+9535+4294966670+9329

It sure looks like the regulator/motor assembly. is still available. I see no mention of the tape I spoke of so it looks like it doesn't use them. I think they might have been used later, maybe early to mid eighties. Don't remember for sure.
 

kalrith

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Sounds like a gear missing teeth.

That's what I thought at first. However, I don't see any teeth missing, and the gears don't move when it's making the grinding sound.

boomerang, I don't think it has the white tape. Thanks for the search. Do you think the motor needs to be replaced?
 

boomerang

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Any chance of pics? It's been a looong time since I've had the trim pad of a late 70's car off. I can see the motor has a gear, but what I can't recall is how that interfaces with the window itself. Has it got one of those long arc shaped gears? So that the gear on the motor moves that arc shaped gear which has followers on it that moves the window mechanism?

Myself, I would disconnect the window from the regulator. I used to take duct tape and tape the window in place by taping over the top of the window frame. If there is no window frame, you may have to get a friend to hold up the glass.

With the glass disconnected from the window regulator, run it off the switch and see if it goes up and down smoothly. What you need to determine is if the window regulator is what's binding or if the window is binding the regulator. If that makes any sense.

If you can, disconnect mechanically the motor from the regulator. See if the motor runs smoothly.

You have to try each individual part of the entire mechanism that raises and lowers the window to see where the real problem lies. The motor looked to be pretty inexpensive, but if that's not the problem it's just money wasted. The motor makes a lot of revolutions to either raise or lower the window. I think it's highly unlikely that the motor only turns just so far in either direction. It's got to be in the regulator or the guides for the window itself. Be sure to look down in the bottom of the door for any pieces that may have fallen off. A roller or guide could have come loose and be causing the whole problem.

I'll help more if I can, but from here it's kinda tough.

Edit: Doing a little research and it looks like it might be a tough job to disconnect the glass. They used some special fasteners with two slightly elongated holes in them. You need a spanner wrench or the special tool for the job. I've improvised in the past with needle nosed pliers.

The regulator assembly is probably a variation on a scissors lift. How the motor interfaces with that I truly don't recall.

A mention was made of a stripped gear. How about a foreign body lodged between one of the teeth not allowing it to turn? That would jam it both going forward and reverse.

I think you're going to find a part, or a guide or a bolt down in the bottom of the door. Find where it came from and your problem will be solved. I doubt the regulator mechanism "just failed", something has come loose or fallen off. Basically there is a guide at both the leading edge and trailing edge of the window. A "U" shaped bracket attaches to the window using two or possibly three of those nuts with the slightly elongated holes. The regulator mechanism has two rollers that run in that "U" bracket. The rollers get closer together to raise the window and they get farther apart to lower the window. As I said I just can't recall how the motor connects to the regulator.

Be cognizant of what is actually holding that window up when you start disconnecting things. That sucker will drop in a big hurry. Big doors and big, heavy glass.
 

kalrith

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Originally posted by: boomerang
I can see the motor has a gear, but what I can't recall is how that interfaces with the window itself. Has it got one of those long arc shaped gears? So that the gear on the motor moves that arc shaped gear which has followers on it that moves the window mechanism?

Yes, that's exactly how it is. I'll check to see if something fell down inside the door frame or if there's something stuck in one of the gears. Hopefully it's something as simple as that. If not, I'll start troubleshooting each part separately. I might take some pics as well, but I'll check the other things first.

Thanks so much for all the help!
 

halik

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Originally posted by: kalrith
Last week I rolled down the window in my car, and it made a grinding noise about 2/3 of the way down. I went to roll it back up, and after 6 inches it made the same grinding noise. It moves fine within that range, but I can't get it to move any more. I took the door panels off last night and lubed everything. The gear is in a position to where I can't tap it with a hammer to get it to roll up, but I can to get it to roll down more. I did this, but it's still moving its 6" albeit a little lower than before.

I found this link which suggests the window regulators need to be replaced. Do you agree with this? If so, where would I find window regulators for such an old car?

Thanks!

Stripped teeth on the window regulators. Does it sound repetitive dum-dum-dum-dum when they get stuck?