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"Power supply, Shmower supply" wtf is wrong??

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sebntys

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After i install the drivers for my leadtek fx 5900, after re boot it hangs like after 5 seconds in windows xp, i tryed updating the latest driver from nvidia and it still doesnt fix the problem, i had some problems earlier on and it was telling me about something to do with the fx 5900 not recieving enough power, this was fixed by me plugging a power cord from the power supply into the card which had previously been left out. now it no longer has a power problem but xp states that "the fx 5900 display driver is causing system instability"

i read on a few sites that they said there is a minimum 450W power supply required for it and i read somewere else there is a minimum of 350W power supply, i currantly have a 400W.

Can anyone help me and tell me what is the cause for this? i have installed all the updated drivers and even tryed rolling back to the driver supplyed with the card.

thanks, alex

my pc specs are:

p4 3.0ghz C
GA-8S48FX
512 DDR 400
Leadtek fx 5900
80gb ata133 hdd


 
What card where you using before 5900.... maybe there are drivers of it in windows causinng the error. Try driver cleaner to get rid of previous drivers and install latest Forceware then.
 
When you say brand new system, do you mean it has never had another video card in there besides your 5900? Is the 5900 the first card to ever grace this system for the current Operating system installation?

Download 2 things. Driver Cleaner 2 and the Nvidia 53.03 driver.

Next

What other components (in PCI slots) do you have in there? The best way to isolate a problem is to remove all PCI cards (sound card,modem, scsi unless your hard drives are scsi,) or anything else that might have a conflict with the 5900. Leave in only the 5900 AGP card and make sure its seated correctly and screwed in tightly. Double check the aux. power connector on the 5900 and makes sure its in there good.

Disconnect any case fans you have for cooling. The only fans that should be running are the power supply fan, cpu fan, 5900 fan, and if equipped, the northbridge fan. We are trying to reduce the power draw here.

After all this, use the Driver Cleaner 2 program and read the readme.txt file carefully before you run it. Follow the directions.

Reboot and install the 53.03 driver that you downloaded
Reboot.
Let it run, play a game (yes even without sound) check anything you might think would crash an unstable video card.

If it crashes, it is one of three things. Your vid card is bad, your mobo is incompatable with the vid card, or your OS is borked.
Test the card first in another system, a friends possibly. If it does the same thing, RMA the card, if not, format and reload Windows.
If it still does it after that, your mobo is the culprit here.


If it does not crash, shut down and install a PCI card ONE AT A TIME between reboots. This will tell you what card might be conflicting with the vid card.

If nothing happens after all PCI cards are back in, plug in your case fans one at a time. If is starts to crash, its your power supply most likely.

Do not underestimate the importance of a quality powersupply to aquire sytem stability. Your comment on "power supply Shmower supply" isn't a positive approach to fixing your problem. Listen to the folks in this forum and you will eventually fix your system through trial and error and advice.

Keys
 
Do not underestimate the importance of a quality powersupply to aquire sytem stability. Your comment on "power supply Shmower supply" isn't a positive approach to fixing your problem.
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I'll second this statement. Saving a couple bucks on a power supply is a really bad idea. Go get yourself a quality power supply. Antec True Power series, Sparkle, or Fotron are good brands to look for.
 
ok thanx for all your help... ill giv it a try and let you guys know....

and i paid 65 dollars australian for my 400 w power supply, wat u think of that... ?

and with the "power supply shmower supply" comment to be honest, i posted this message under a differant subject, and we didnt get a reply, i changed it so it would catch peoples attention....

ne ways... ill try what you all suggested.... keep em cumming in....

thanx.. alex
 
Originally posted by: sebntys
ok thanx for all your help... ill giv it a try and let you guys know....

and i paid 65 dollars australian for my 400 w power supply, wat u think of that... ?
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If its an inadequate power supply, I'd say you got robbed. Just because it says 400Watts, doesn't mean it is. You have to read up on these sneaky bastard manufacturers who insanely highball the ratings on their PSU's just to sell em for more money.

Have you ever bought a power amplifier for say a home stereo system? Like from "Pyramid" or "Pyle" or some other brand no ones heard of?
Get this, they rate their amps to produce 2000 watts of power in their advertisements. Upon further inspection and reading articles and reviews, I found out that the very same amp can only constantly produce 125 watts per channel RMS and only for split seconds can it "Pulse" out 1000 per side. Their only means of survival is to get uneducated consumers to buy their crappy amps and let them "think" they got a 2000 watt amp.

Same deal goes for power supplies mate.
You need to read reviews and find ones that have been tested thouroghly. The ones that got the good reviews are the ones you buy. Sure you will pay more, but you get what you pay for. 400watts means nothing unless you have one that has been reviewed an/or tested.

Keys

 
$65 Aus is what, $30-35(maybe $40) US? I suspect power supply, before buying a new one though, post your voltages as reported in the BIOS.
 
ok i removed everything from the pci slots and unplugged my fan...

i used drive clean....

rebooted, and installed driver from 53.03 driver for 5900

after reboot, it gets to the welcom to xp blue screen, and same problem occurs.

i let the comp chug away, and it evetually restarted and got into windows saying

"the driver for the display device was unable to complete a drawing operation please check with the device manufacturor for a driv er update"

"the display driver for the Nvidia geforce fx 5900 seems to be responsible for the system instability"


now i know we dont need the updated driver cos we have it...

my guess here is the card is buggered...

wat u think.... ne more suggestions?

- alex
 
the bran name is "MEC" heard of it, lol.. and the voltage staed in the bios is....

i dont know which one it is so here they all are.....


VCORE - 1.554V
VCC18 - 1.936V
+3.3V - 3.264V
+5V - 5.160V
+12V - 11.921V


is that wat you needed?

- alex
 
Originally posted by: sebntys
the bran name is "MEC" heard of it, lol.. and the voltage staed in the bios is....

i dont know which one it is so here they all are.....


VCORE - 1.554V
VCC18 - 1.936V
+3.3V - 3.264V
+5V - 5.160V
+12V - 11.921V


is that wat you needed?

- alex
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Those look ok to me. Do you have DirectX 9 installed(latest version)? I'm stumped, your card might be buggered.
 
i saw someone over at nvnews.net with this same issue and he had a good ps, but he posted back a few days later saying the problem just went away so unfortunatly i don't have any advice on how to solve the issue.
 
I've found the 53.03 drivers to be buggy. Madden 2004 won't run... other games have strange graphical glitches, like Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic... with the 53.03 drivers some of the dust blowing in the wind and stuff like that alternates between green, blue, and red colors. In Unreal 2: The Awakening, some objects "blink" ... meaning, about every second they appear, then disappear, then appear again, and disappear again.

I'm using the 52.70 drivers and have none of those problems.
 
yes that would be all good if it didnt keep crashing at windows, as soon as i install any drivers for the card it just crashes at windows after i have rebooted after installing the drivers.

without the drivers installed it is perfect in windows, its only until i install any driver to do with the video card it then crashes as soon as i get in windows which then i have to go via safe mode and remove that driver.... i dont know what to do... any suggestions?
 
Originally posted by: sebntys
yes that would be all good if it didnt keep crashing at windows, as soon as i install any drivers for the card it just crashes at windows after i have rebooted after installing the drivers.

without the drivers installed it is perfect in windows, its only until i install any driver to do with the video card it then crashes as soon as i get in windows which then i have to go via safe mode and remove that driver.... i dont know what to do... any suggestions?
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I may have missed it, but do you have SP1 installed for WinXP? If not, try that.
 
It may help to post the bios version of the video card, it may be an early version, and may need to be upgraded.
 
Originally posted by: sebntys
yes that would be all good if it didnt keep crashing at windows, as soon as i install any drivers for the card it just crashes at windows after i have rebooted after installing the drivers.

without the drivers installed it is perfect in windows, its only until i install any driver to do with the video card it then crashes as soon as i get in windows which then i have to go via safe mode and remove that driver.... i dont know what to do... any suggestions?
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It sounds like you've tried about everything. Try it in a friend's machine and see if it works... I had similar problems and it turned out to be an incompatible motherboard. I was using an Epox motherboard.
 
It's sounding to me like it is an AGP driver issue at this point. Have you had the processor OCd yet? It's possible that you have had some data corruption on your Windows install from the IDE being a bit too high, either that or the AGP drivers never got installed properly(not saying that's your fault, Windows has been known to screw up installing the proper drivers from time to time).
 
Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
It's sounding to me like it is an AGP driver issue at this point. Have you had the processor OCd yet? It's possible that you have had some data corruption on your Windows install from the IDE being a bit too high, either that or the AGP drivers never got installed properly(not saying that's your fault, Windows has been known to screw up installing the proper drivers from time to time).
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lol
 
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