Power Supply Question

DfiDude

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A lot of people would recommend PCP & C, but is it really worth it? Would it be good to get a Seasonic S12 500 that has 80% efficiency? Most of the PCP & P psu's have 70% effiency, would there be a noticable difference? I need a new psu btw so thatsh why i have the question. Here is the upcoming rig:

Amd Athlon 4400+ Toledo
Sapphire Pure Innovation (once it comes out)
OCZ Rev Platinum 2 (512 X 4) 2 Gigs/ Mushkin Redline XP4000 (512 X 4) 2 Gigs
XFX 7800 GT PCI-E
Western Digital Raptor 74gig (for games)
Seagate 7200.8 200 gig (for the rest of the stuff)
Antec P180 SPCR
BenQ DW1640
 

Cheesetogo

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PCP&C is nice, but if you ask me, their a waste of money. The seasonic psu is nice because it's very quiet and has the high efficency. You might also want to look into enermax's higher end psu's.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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A PCP&C 510 or a Seasonic 500 would both be very nice choices for that rig.

I guess it depends on how much you want to spend. The 500watt Seasonic is even overkill for the rig really.
 

DfiDude

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Yea becuz that rig will be lasting a while, so money is no choice when it comes down to a power supply. So should i just go with the PCP&P?
 

Icopoli

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Yet to have a problem with my Enermax 550. When running at 100% on both fans, it's still quieter than the fan on my 3000+.
 

raildogg

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Fortron 500W Blue Storm, it has long enough cables for that case

Seasonic is not a good choice for that case
 

DfiDude

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Well i have decided i will just go with the PCP&C for best performance and stuff, although the seasonic is a good choice also. Last thing though i need is ram, i am trying to find 2 gigs, i am thinking some cucial ballistix, i will be oc'ing so i need some good performance ram, any suggestions? BTW i am looking for 2 X 1 heh.
 

Pr0d1gy

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Patriot Signiature Series is supposed to be nice.
OCZ Gold is very popular.
 

ElTorrente

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I have a PCP&C 510 sli - and it is just excellent. I wanted "the best", so I researched and bought one.

That being said, when people ask me advice on a PSU, I usually tell them Seasonic S-12 600W. The are failry inexpensive ($130-$150 or so), quiet, efficient, and reliable. What more do you want?

You can save 20bucks maybe getting something else like an Enermax or something. I'm not saying Enermax or Antec or similar is "bad" - I'm just saying Seasonic is arguably "better".

The PSU is probably the most important component you can get for you system- don't skimp.
 
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Personally, I suggest the PC P & C 510W SLI. Brutal PSU.
The Antec Phantom 500W is also another intresting choice for that case.l
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: ElTorrente
I have a PCP&C 510 sli - and it is just excellent. I wanted "the best", so I researched and bought one.

That being said, when people ask me advice on a PSU, I usually tell them Seasonic S-12 600W. The are failry inexpensive ($130-$150 or so), quiet, efficient, and reliable. What more do you want?

You can save 20bucks maybe getting something else like an Enermax or something. I'm not saying Enermax or Antec or similar is "bad" - I'm just saying Seasonic is arguably "better".

The PSU is probably the most important component you can get for you system- don't skimp.

and a Fortron 500W Blue Storm is only $91, probably one of the top choices at the moment.
 

Cheesetogo

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Wouldn't your money be better spent on a 7800gtx and 100 dollar psu, rather than a 7800gt and a 200 dollar psu? You'll never see a difference in the psu's, but you might with the graphics cards.

Originally posted by: ElTorrente
I have a PCP&C 510 sli - and it is just excellent. I wanted "the best", so I researched and bought one.

That being said, when people ask me advice on a PSU, I usually tell them Seasonic S-12 600W. The are failry inexpensive ($130-$150 or so), quiet, efficient, and reliable. What more do you want?

You can save 20bucks maybe getting something else like an Enermax or something. I'm not saying Enermax or Antec or similar is "bad" - I'm just saying Seasonic is arguably "better".

The PSU is probably the most important component you can get for you system- don't skimp.

Yes, 130-150 dollars is really inexpensive all right. :roll: Why do people insist on these ultra-high end psu 's for systems that don't need them? An ultra high-end gaming rig (FX-57, 2x7800gtxs) doesn't even need that much power, and could easily be powered by a 100 dollar psu. You only need to spend 30 - 70 dollars for a quality power supply in most cases.
 

ElTorrente

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Originally posted by: Cheesetogo
Wouldn't your money be better spent on a 7800gtx and 100 dollar psu, rather than a 7800gt and a 200 dollar psu? You'll never see a difference in the psu's, but you might with the graphics cards.

Originally posted by: ElTorrente
I have a PCP&C 510 sli - and it is just excellent. I wanted "the best", so I researched and bought one.

That being said, when people ask me advice on a PSU, I usually tell them Seasonic S-12 600W. The are failry inexpensive ($130-$150 or so), quiet, efficient, and reliable. What more do you want?

You can save 20bucks maybe getting something else like an Enermax or something. I'm not saying Enermax or Antec or similar is "bad" - I'm just saying Seasonic is arguably "better".

The PSU is probably the most important component you can get for you system- don't skimp.

Yes, 130-150 dollars is really inexpensive all right. :roll: Why do people insist on these ultra-high end psu 's for systems that don't need them? An ultra high-end gaming rig (FX-57, 2x7800gtxs) doesn't even need that much power, and could easily be powered by a 100 dollar psu. You only need to spend 30 - 70 dollars for a quality power supply in most cases.


Well - news flash: computers are expensive.

You have no problem spending hundreds of dollars on RAM, or Video Card, or CPU, whatever- but the very component that supplies power to all these components is somehow not worth spending more than 30bucks?!?!? I just spent 30bucks on dinner..
 

slash196

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My Fortron Blue Storm is probably the one component in my computer that hasn't ever given me problems.
 

raildogg

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7800gtx's draw less power than the 6800 series, a decent 400W or less power supply can run a rig smoothly with one of those in it.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Cheesetogo
Yes, 130-150 dollars is really inexpensive all right. :roll: Why do people insist on these ultra-high end psu 's for systems that don't need them? An ultra high-end gaming rig (FX-57, 2x7800gtxs) doesn't even need that much power, and could easily be powered by a 100 dollar psu. You only need to spend 30 - 70 dollars for a quality power supply in most cases.

And what happens when that $30 to $70 cheap-arse supply goes t!ts up and takes hundreds (thousands?) of dollars worth of valuable equipment (such as your CPU and mainboard) with it? I'd call investing in a high-end PS and a good UPS 2 of the most important and often overlooked aspects in building a new rig.

And before you snap that "what are the odds of that happening?" do a search here and look around on other forums. You'll see how many people went cheap and have regretted it.
 
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Originally posted by: Cheesetogo
Wouldn't your money be better spent on a 7800gtx and 100 dollar psu, rather than a 7800gt and a 200 dollar psu? You'll never see a difference in the psu's, but you might with the graphics cards.

Originally posted by: ElTorrente
I have a PCP&C 510 sli - and it is just excellent. I wanted "the best", so I researched and bought one.

That being said, when people ask me advice on a PSU, I usually tell them Seasonic S-12 600W. The are failry inexpensive ($130-$150 or so), quiet, efficient, and reliable. What more do you want?

You can save 20bucks maybe getting something else like an Enermax or something. I'm not saying Enermax or Antec or similar is "bad" - I'm just saying Seasonic is arguably "better".

The PSU is probably the most important component you can get for you system- don't skimp.

Yes, 130-150 dollars is really inexpensive all right. :roll: Why do people insist on these ultra-high end psu 's for systems that don't need them? An ultra high-end gaming rig (FX-57, 2x7800gtxs) doesn't even need that much power, and could easily be powered by a 100 dollar psu. You only need to spend 30 - 70 dollars for a quality power supply in most cases.

The rigs that I use would probably overload two of those "100$" PSUs.
 

mike3uz

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Originally posted by: DfiDude
A lot of people would recommend PCP & C, but is it really worth it? Would it be good to get a Seasonic S12 500 that has 80% efficiency? Most of the PCP & P psu's have 70% effiency, would there be a noticable difference? I need a new psu btw so thatsh why i have the question. Here is the upcoming rig:

Amd Athlon 4400+ Toledo
Sapphire Pure Innovation (once it comes out)
OCZ Rev Platinum 2 (512 X 4) 2 Gigs/ Mushkin Redline XP4000 (512 X 4) 2 Gigs
XFX 7800 GT PCI-E
Western Digital Raptor 74gig (for games)
Seagate 7200.8 200 gig (for the rest of the stuff)
Antec P180 SPCR
BenQ DW1640


Can you stand listening to a fan on that psu that is capable of pushing up to 44 dba. The turbo cool is awesome but loud.
 

Pabster

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Be careful on those efficiency ratings too. 80% efficiency, at what load? Or 70%, at what load?

A supply could easily be 80% efficient at 1/2 load and far less efficient when operating closer to its maximum output.
 

orangat

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Originally posted by: Kensai
Originally posted by: Cheesetogo
Yes, 130-150 dollars is really inexpensive all right. :roll: Why do people insist on these ultra-high end psu 's for systems that don't need them? An ultra high-end gaming rig (FX-57, 2x7800gtxs) doesn't even need that much power, and could easily be powered by a 100 dollar psu. You only need to spend 30 - 70 dollars for a quality power supply in most cases.

The rigs that I use would probably overload two of those "100$" PSUs.

What do you have in your rigs that consume so much power?
 

DfiDude

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Yea, but i have decided to go with the PCP&C so yay. I am thinking to get Crucial Ballistix and get some good oc with those and run a divider so i can get low timings. What do you think?