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Twinpeaksr

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Working on my new systems I had a good discussion with someone on another thread about Power supplies. After spending way too much time digging into this, I thought I would seek out more info from others.

I am building 2 systems (They are shown here) and am working on the final parts of the component selection. The key for both of these systems is reliability over speed; If the system is unstable, speed is kind of useless.

There have been many PS choices thrown to me from (FSP, Enermax, Silverstone, etc...) and many I have been told to stay away from (FSP, Enermax, Silverstone, etc...). I am looking for recommendations and reasons for why. I understand PS design somewhat, but have not dug into what is being used in todays PC PS.

Based on an analysis of my server, this one will require a 600W PS or greater, sourcing 40A on the 12V lines. This is based on worst case analysis of the system.

For the workstation, I estimate 400W or greater based on the adjusted calculations from the server.

So what do the minds out there see as the best solutions for this? I know everyone has an opinion, but I am looking for the science to back it up as well.

Let the posts begin!

Thanks!
 
The ones above are just examples, not sure if that is what I should use or not. The Corsair looks good, just don't like the price (I hate that you have to pay for quality!). But the more I dig the more I see $100 range instead of the $50 range.

Any other thoughts out there? How about ThermalTake or HiPro?
 
Start here first.

This way you got better choices going in. Most AT'ers next go to Newegg to buy their PSUs. The most popular being Fortron, Enermax or Seasonic. Some prefer Silverstone and Corsair. Better go with the adage, the more it weighs, you're getting more for your money.
 
Now that is a good site! That is what I have been looking for, thanks for the info, looks like I will not complete what I need to again!

Thanks!
 
Originally posted by: Twinpeaksr
I am looking for the science to back it up as well.
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The first thing you should probably know is that most companies in the business of selling retail PSUs don't actually manufacture anything, OCZ, Silverstone for example. They simply take somebody else?s product put their on label on it and put in a retail packaging. Some of are special designs built to unique specifications, Antec and PCP&C would be examples.

The rest would be actual manufactures such as FSP (Forton-Source), Seasonic, Enhance, they actually build and sell the units. Personally I like to buy from companies that actually do the building since you have more consistency and know exactly what you are buying . Having said that there are some third party sources I wouldn?t hesitate to recommend, Silverstone (Enhance), Zalman (FSP), and recently Corsair (Seasonic) all use high quality OEMs for their units.

Personally I go with Seasonic, Forton-Source, PCP&C, and Zalman, I also recommend Enhance quite a bit.

Originally posted by: Twinpeaksr
Any other thoughts out there? How about ThermalTake or HiPro?
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HI-Pro is more of a budget manufacture, you?ll often see them used in cheaper sub $400 machines. They aren?t particularly impressive but they are also very inexpensive so you bassicly get what you pay for.

Thermaltake uses a couple of different sources for their units all of them are low-end except the Pure Power. For that reason I generally wouldn?t suggest them unless there is particular reason you like the Pure Power line.
 
A lot of good info, thanks for all the help!

Good to know who the actual manufactures are, I figured there were far less than it appeared (just like plasma screen, 50 manufactures selling them, 5 making them).

Any one have any info on XClio or Sparkle?

Right now I am leaning to the SILVERSTONE SST-ST405 for the workstation and the CORSAIR HX520w for the server. Still researching though, and always open to ideas. I think that ThermalTake, HiPro, Hiper, and a few others are out, not convinced of the stability.

Thanks!
 
XCilo is OEM'd from Channel Well they are probably good for money but haven't been around very long so it's hard to say for sure. The one thing would concern me is the failure rates of all the Channel Well built Antecs.

Sparkle is built and owned by Forton-Source, I would have no problem recommending them.
 
Originally posted by: Twinpeaksr
A lot of good info, thanks for all the help!

Good to know who the actual manufactures are, I figured there were far less than it appeared (just like plasma screen, 50 manufactures selling them, 5 making them).

Any one have any info on XClio or Sparkle?

Right now I am leaning to the SILVERSTONE SST-ST405 for the workstation and the CORSAIR HX520w for the server. Still researching though, and always open to ideas. I think that ThermalTake, HiPro, Hiper, and a few others are out, not convinced of the stability.

Thanks!
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Those are both excellent choices. :thumbsup: Congrats.
 
Originally posted by: Operandi
XCilo is OEM'd from Channel Well they are probably good for money but haven't been around very long so it's hard to say for sure. The one thing would concern me is the failure rates of all the Channel Well built Antecs.

Sparkle is built and owned by Forton-Source, I would have no problem recommending them.
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The XClio's have better cooling then CWT Antecs. Their-for the Fuhjyyu cap issue doesn't mean much unless you don't run any cooling in your case. XClios are still good, but I still recommend what I was saying in your other thread.
 
Thanks for the details. I am thinking using:

SILVERSTONE SST-ST365 for the Workstation as this does not have a lot to source (HD, DVD, MB).
SILVERSTONE ZEUS SST-ST65ZF for the server as this has a lot to source (7-8HD, DVD, MB, 590W Max by my calculation)

Thanks for all the input!

 
Originally posted by: dBTelos
Originally posted by: Operandi
XCilo is OEM'd from Channel Well they are probably good for money but haven't been around very long so it's hard to say for sure. The one thing would concern me is the failure rates of all the Channel Well built Antecs.

Sparkle is built and owned by Forton-Source, I would have no problem recommending them.
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The XClio's have better cooling then CWT Antecs. Their-for the Fuhjyyu cap issue doesn't mean much unless you don't run any cooling in your case. XClios are still good, but I still recommend what I was saying in your other thread.
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There is definitely something flawed with the Channel Well built Antecs. Cooling could be the only issue but it's impossible to say for sure since there are other unknowns in the circuit design that determine how well the caps hold up, not that Fuhjyyu is at all good.
 
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