Power Consumption? Celeron D 340 versus Sempron 2800+ (754)

cmv

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I've been digging around but not having much luck finding power usage information for the Celeron D 340 and the Sempron 2800+ (the 64-bit version for the 754 socket). Does anyone have this information or pointers?

I am currently using the Celeron D 340 in a HTPC and it works well but after moving out of an apartment to a house the issue of energy usage came up. I've researched having the system auto power off and on to also conserve power but that is another topic.
 

myocardia

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The Sempron uses less power. Of course, the real reason you should pick the Sempron isn't it's power usage, but how much cooler it runs. A 90nm Preshott is a beast to cool, compared to a 1.40v Sempron, I can assure you. Also, Semprons have always outperformed their Celeron counterparts, even though they run slower.

edit: If I were you, I'd definitely get one of these: Venice Skt 754 Athlon 3000. It's "only" 1.8 Ghz, but it's way faster than that Sempron 2800, because it's speed is slightly faster, and it's got 4 times the L2 cache.

Also, it will be able to use Cool n Quiet, which means it will use considerably less electricity. Oh, and since it's a Venice, you can use up to 3 sticks of double-sided RAM with it. With the Sempron 2800, you'll only be able to use 1, without the RAM being forced to run at a slower speed.
 

cmv

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Excellent points. I need to dig some more on the power usage. I've used Cool 'n Quiet with my AMD 64 3200 (old clawhammer I think) so that would definately be a big gain. I forgot the Sempron wouldn't have that. Time to think this over some more...

Thank you
 

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Myocardia is right on. Don't waste another moment thinking about the Celeron D. I've used and like the S754 Sempron 2800, but with AMD's current excellent pricing, it's not the chip you should buy. The S754 Sempron 2800 doesn't have Cool 'n' Quiet. You won't get that on a Sempron until you bump up to the 1.8 GHz Chips (3000 and beyond). That S754 Venice Athlon 64 3000 is a winner. Look at AMD Compare. That particular CPU (ADA3000AIK4BX) only expends 51W at 2.0 GHz!!! With Cool 'n' Quiet enabled, that particular CPU will work great for you while staying cool! It's OEM at Newegg for about $72 (includng shipping) right now.

-MINOT-
 

Nil Einne

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Bear in mind the 2800+ 754 is not guaranteed to have CnQ. AFAIK, the 3000+ should be thought but ask AMD.

The AM2 2800+ is supposed to according to AMD last time I checked. But I've heard some people have gotten some that don't but if AMD says it should and it doesn't then I guess you can just return it. Again the 1.8ghz Sempron i.e. 3200+ for the AM2 I think always has CnQ...
 

DarkTXKnight

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how does that athlon 3000 compare to a sempron 3100+ ?? I was looking for a slight upgrade to my system so that I could use te sempron and extra MB for my wife's ,machine. I still want to stay skt 754 though.
 

The-Noid

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Buy a Pentium M, or spend the extra money and get a Core Duo. Pentium M or any Laptop Core Duo is great for a media center pc. Especially if you are looking into doing HD in the future. Look at the mac mini duo which only used 82 watts on full load :) if you want to know how efficient a Core Duo is.
 

Zap

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No need to spend a small fortune on trying to use a notebook CPU... the Semprons are great choices. For the OP, what RAM do you need to recycle? What video card? What form factor is your case?

At the lower price range any of the AMD chips are great choices. If you have DDR2, then go socket AM2 (though they are almost all PCI-E). Socket AM2 Semprons start at $40 shipped for a retail box 2800+. Alternately you can get the low voltage 35W models, or just undervolt whichever chip you get. I did that with a socket 754 Sempron 2600+ with great results (your board has to support undervolting) on a Biostar Tforce6100 board, running the CPU at a few tenths of a volt below default, something like 1.15v thereabouts.

If you have DDR RAM, consider socket 939 because you can get a 3000+ Athlon 64 with guaranteed Cool and Quiet for $55 shipped, retail box. With pricing this low, would make for a better deal than a more expensive socket 754 Athlon 64.

For low power usage you have to take a holistic approach. What's the efficiency of your PSU? Look for the 80+ rating. What video card do you use? Many of the recent ATI cards use more power (creating more heat) than their Nvidia counterparts. How many HDDs are in the system? Each one can take up to 12W, so use fewer, larger drives. How many fans? If you are going for components that use less power, they put out less heat and you can get away with fewer or slower fans. Each one can take up to a few watts. If the motherboard you get supports it, set up Smart Fan to spin the fan slower if the extra cooling is not needed. Play around with Windows power settings.

Alternately you can do what I do. Manually turn off the HTPC if you aren't going to be using it. For instance, I only use mine in the evenings, so I turn it on the first time I go to use it and turn it off before I go to sleep. It's like turning off the lights - just make it a habit. Most lights don't turn themselves off, so why should the computer?