Potential bug in bittorrent

[Ryland]

I received a DMCA takedown notice for supposed infringement last night. I did have BT open last night but the file in question hasn't been on my computer in a month BUT it was listed in the list of files in the BT manager with an error status next to it (because the file was missing). Can anybody explain how Metro-Goldwyn can say that a file is being shared that BT thinks is in an error state? Is BT returning information to make them think it is available at my IP?

 

[lxskllr]

It's most likely from a month ago. The MPAA doesn't act that quickly. It takes awhile to get to you.

 

[Modelworks]

Its ok , I got a DMCA notice for searching for a file on a torrent site.
Never even shared it or downloaded it.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Its ok , I got a DMCA notice for searching for a file on a torrent site.
Never even shared it or downloaded it.

How the hell does that work?

 

[Ryland]

The timestamp of when I supposedly had the file was for last night at 9:53pm and the email looks like its an auto-sent letter.

Evidentiary Information:
Notice ID: 214-2371563
Asset: Stargate Atlantis
Protocol: BitTorrent
IP Address:
DNS:
File Name: Stargate.Atlantis.S05E15.HDTV.XviD
File Size: 366941708
Timestamp: 15 Dec 2008 02:53:49 GMT
Last Seen Date: 15 Dec 2008 02:53:49 GMT Username (if available):
Port ID: 43288

 

[bruceb]

I am also curious if Bit Torrent is cause for concern about downloading some items. Especially movies or tv shows as they are what will usually be DMCAA noticed. And what about downloads of software programs ? ?

 

[Ryland]

Well figuring I was downloading tv shows then yeah it is covered by copyright BUT the DMCA theoretically only applies if someone is able to download an entire show from you. My understanding of BT torrent is that it is highly unlikely that one person would download an entire file from one other person when there are multiple people it is available from. The major annoyance for me is that fact that the takedown was for a file I didn't even have anymore.

 

[Ryland]

Ok..now Im stumped. For some reason BT actually DID redownload something from a month ago. Ahh heck, now I have to figure out how that happened.

 

[sswingle]

Who runs BT without IP filters?

 

[bruceb]

I am curious how one would run an IP Filter when you are behind a Router such as on cable or dsl.
The Modem has the IP that the internet sees. So how do I hide if I am behind a router ? ?
It would be nice if that can be done. If so, how ? ?

 

[Ryland]

Originally posted by: bruceb
I am curious how one would run an IP Filter when you are behind a Router such as on cable or dsl.
The Modem has the IP that the internet sees. So how do I hide if I am behind a router ? ?
It would be nice if that can be done. If so, how ? ?

Search for Peer Guardian. That is how you do it (which I only found out about today). It looks like you have to jump through hoops to get it to work under Vista64 though.

 

[bruceb]

I found that site. But how is that going to help them from knowing the IP of the modem / router that the downloads are being done thru ? ?
Or is that only to prevent them from querying what is on your computer ? ? How do they find out what you downloaded ? ?

 

[Crusty]

Originally posted by: bruceb
I found that site. But how is that going to help them from knowing the IP of the modem / router that the downloads are being done thru ? ?
Or is that only to prevent them from querying what is on your computer ? ? How do they find out what you downloaded ? ?

By connecting to your computer using their own bit torrent client, once they see you are sharing illegal content they can take action. If you don't want people to see what you are doing, then you need to either encrypt your entire communications or just stop sharing illegal content.

 

[Ryland]

The way I read it is that PG has a blacklist which won't allow any know investigators to connect to your computer to download content.

 

[Ika]

I'm surprised this thread hasn't been closed yet for discussion of illegal downloading...

 

[Ryland]

Originally posted by: Aflac
I'm surprised this thread hasn't been closed yet for discussion of illegal downloading...

Im assuming that it hasn't been closed because non of us are talking about ways to do it illegally. I started it because of a potential bug in BT which I later realized was only my own stupidity

Of course I could be wrong and headed for a vacation for all I know....

 

[sourceninja]

All PG and other filters do is prevent a list of known IP addresses from connecting to your machine to download from you. This does not stop them from seeing and logging your IP from the tracker. Now if the tracker ran PG that would help solve the problem. Otherwise having a LP log that you are connected to a metallica CD is enough evidence to show you were attempting copyright infringement.

 

[Ryland]

Current court rulings showed that even "make available" wasn't enough to be found guilty of copyright infringement. I could be wrong but AFAIK downloading isn't copyright infringement, actually having someone download a complete work from your machine is.