Potential 2200g build

Timorous

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So I am looking at building a system based around the 2200G as that should be a pretty big upgrade over my laptop with an i7 quad (2xxx series) and a 540M GPU.

I am looking to play games like Stellaris, Civ 6, Path of Exile, Pillars of Eternity etc and to be honest my laptop does okay at 1080p but I have a 4k screen for work and I want to take better advantage of it. Looking at the 2500U that is around 4x faster than my 540m so an OCd 2200G should be a bigger improvement, if not I can just add a GPU in the future.

My budget is between £400 and £600 for the hardware. I already have an 850 Evo SSD in my laptop so I will just wipe it and build using that.

My current idea of the build is as follows:

Corsair 270r Case, no window. around £55. Would consider anything in this budget that is open main chamber, no window and no optical drives. I like the plain design of this and the Fractal Design Define Mini C, although the Define is more than I want to spend. Would also need to support a 240mm or 280mm radiator unless someone can convince me to go air cooled.

16GB 3600+ Ram, I am looking at Trident X or 8Pack (Team Data) from OCUK. The 8Pack is cheaper and has good timings, also guaranteed b-die. The price over the 3200 is just £10 so its not a fat lot of extra money to guarantee the memory will hit that speed, obviously the CPU might have other ideas.

Seasonic G-360 PSU, might look at the G-450 instead but I think the 360 should be more than enough for this build. Any other options that might be a bit cheaper but would do a good job? I have read mixed things about the corsair CX range and the EVGA range.

B350 motherboard, MSI Mortar or Tomahawk seem good from what I have read but any other options that have good ram compatibility? I could also wait for the 450s but it depends on when they will launch and on the Ram performance in the RR reviews on the 350. If 3600 speeds are relatively common then I am not sure waiting for the 450 is worth it to me personally.

Cooling I am looking at the CoolerMaster ML240L (non RGB), for the same price I can get the ID-Cooling FrostFlow+ 280 but no real idea on if that is any good or not, the only review I found suggested it performed about the same as the ML240L and with bigger fans I would guess it is quieter (no tests on this) but it also said the pump was noisy. I would also consider air but I want good performance and quiet operations for around £50 as that is what the two AIOs cost.

2200G, not sure it is worth upgrading to the 2400G, would rather put that extra money towards a GPU because if the 2200G can't cut it I don't think the 2400G will be faster by a large enough margin to make a meaningful difference.

Does anyone have any swaps or alternative builds that would do better for a similar budget? One thing I do quite like is that if I get the upgrade itch a year or two I could swap in Zen+ / Zen 2 and a GPU and have a pretty good system, perhaps that warrants going for the 450W PSU rather than the 360W.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts or suggestions.
 

ao_ika_red

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Will a Noctua NH U12S convince you for going air route instead of aio? I see on newegg uk that it costs about £46. I have much cheaper cooler (Deepcool Gammaxx 400) to cool my 845 and it doesn't even break any sweat at fully sustained turbo speed (40°C /850 rpm fan). So I'm sure the Noctua will do much better than mine.

As for psu, Seasonic had Focus Plus Gold line up for more than a year to replace the old G-series so better look for that.
 

Timorous

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You're not running 4K without a decent GPU, even with your game list.

Probably but when a 1050Ti is > £150 and the 1060 6GB is nearly £400 I can live with naff performance till the prices come down. I can cope with my 540m DDR3 at 1080p and that is no better than 1/4 the performance of the Vega 8 in the 2200G so I expect I could get away with it for a while, especially in Stellaris, Civ (because I use the 2d map) and Pillars of Eternity.

At the very least it will work fine at 1080p with the settings and games I play and I will be able to use 4k on the desktop for browsing and such. It also gives me a platform I can expand on when GPU prices become a bit more sane, which makes me think a 450W PSU would make more sense than the 360.
 
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Fallen Kell

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Wow, I never realized how much of a price difference you have to deal with on some items. The Fractal Define Mini has a 47% markup vs the US (after converting for currency)! Back to the build...

I would recommend getting the 450W power supply. While the 360W would do fine for using the integrated video, for anything else powerful enough to handle 4K, you are going to need the 450W. If you really do see yourself getting a dedicated card once prices are a little more sane, you really don't want to have basically thrown the money away on the 360W that you are going to be ripping out and having sit in your parts bin...
 

Timorous

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Will a Noctua NH U12S convince you for going air route instead of aio? I see on newegg uk that it costs about £46. I have much cheaper cooler (Deepcool Gammaxx 400) to cool my 845 and it doesn't even break any sweat at fully sustained turbo speed (40°C /850 rpm fan). So I'm sure the Noctua will do much better than mine.

As for psu, Seasonic had Focus Plus Gold line up for more than a year to replace the old G-series so better look for that.

Sorry I totally missed this post. Looking at the reviews the ML240L is better in terms of cooling but noise is a bit higher. I guess that means if I ran the ML240L at a lower RPM they would be on part with each other. Price wise they are also pretty similar, £50 for the ML240L, £46 for the U12S and £47 for the U14S. Hmm, not sure.

Wow, I never realized how much of a price difference you have to deal with on some items. The Fractal Define Mini has a 47% markup vs the US (after converting for currency)! Back to the build...

I would recommend getting the 450W power supply. While the 360W would do fine for using the integrated video, for anything else powerful enough to handle 4K, you are going to need the 450W. If you really do see yourself getting a dedicated card once prices are a little more sane, you really don't want to have basically thrown the money away on the 360W that you are going to be ripping out and having sit in your parts bin...

Yea I think I am leaning towards the 450W or higher. I can get the G-450 for £65 or there is the Focus 550W Platinum for £85 which is the same price as the Focus 550W gold.

Case wise I am still leaning towards the 270r for £55 but I can also get a Phanteks P400S for £62 which seems like another decent case.

Ram has gone up, the Team Group '8pack' was £210 for 3600 16-16-16-36 but now its £240. Still cheaper than the Trident Z CL16 though.

Motherboard wise it looks like the MSI Mortar is the way I am going, only one I can find that has Display Port. Will be waiting for reviews and might hang on till B450s are out but don't want to be waiting too long.
 

Timorous

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So I went with the following

2200G
270R case
MSI Mortar B350 motherboard
2x8GB Team Data '8Pack' 3600CL16 ram (samsung B-Die guaranteed)
Seasonic G450 PSU
Coolermaster ML240L AIO cooling
2x Corsair 140mm fans

Seems to work pretty well. Still tweaking but I ran Prime95 for about an hour last night (small FFTs) and at 3.9Ghz with 1.39v I was hitting 56 degrees C on the CPU. I think 4.0 Ghz might be doable as it boots but I had a hard lock after running Prime95 for about 15 minutes so I will try a bump to 1.4v and see if that gets it stable.

The GPU OCd to 1.5 Ghz but I have not stress tested it yet so not sure if it is stable or not but it boots no problem.

Memory is currently running at 3400 14-14-14-32 but I do need to stress test it to make sure it is stable.

Will post another update when I have done some more testing but happy so far, PC is very quiet as well which is good.
 

whm1974

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So I went with the following

2200G
270R case
MSI Mortar B350 motherboard
2x8GB Team Data '8Pack' 3600CL16 ram (samsung B-Die guaranteed)
Seasonic G450 PSU
Coolermaster ML240L AIO cooling
2x Corsair 140mm fans

Seems to work pretty well. Still tweaking but I ran Prime95 for about an hour last night (small FFTs) and at 3.9Ghz with 1.39v I was hitting 56 degrees C on the CPU. I think 4.0 Ghz might be doable as it boots but I had a hard lock after running Prime95 for about 15 minutes so I will try a bump to 1.4v and see if that gets it stable.

The GPU OCd to 1.5 Ghz but I have not stress tested it yet so not sure if it is stable or not but it boots no problem.

Memory is currently running at 3400 14-14-14-32 but I do need to stress test it to make sure it is stable.

Will post another update when I have done some more testing but happy so far, PC is very quiet as well which is good.
Looks really good, but I would have went what the 2400G instead.