Pot holes

gregshin

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actually i work in downtown LA and holy crap you should see the pot holes around here. The streets have lots of big rig truck traffic also...could it be the weight of the trucks be a factor also?
 

conjur

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Water getting into cracks or under the roadway, freezing/thawing/re-freezing/thawing.
 

SagaLore

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In this day and age, Pot Holes shouldn't even be a problem. It's about time they came up with a new solution to paving roads. They're still using a basic mix of rock/sand/tar/etc. Sure they tweak it here and there, but it never lasts very long. Seems like they're paving the roads in my area every 2 years and they switch between a darker almost black material to a light almost tan material - it's never the same.

They need to come up with a synthetic polymer and new method of paving that will hold up to a century of driving while preventing pot hols and cracks. I think they should prefabricate road material, some type of hexagonal grid rubber/plastic mesh that they just role on top of the road, then fill it in with some type of sealant/emulsifier that holds the mesh to the ground and absorbs impact while creating tread. Ice and salting/scraping might work up some tiny pieces between the mesh, but they could just apply another topcoat of sealant/emulsifier every 5 years or so just to keep it smoothed out.
 

gregshin

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i also saw something in the history channel that USA roads use a cheaper layering process compared to the autobahn in europe...i beleive we use 7 layers while the germans use 11.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: gregshin
i also saw something in the history channel that USA roads use a cheaper layering process compared to the autobahn in europe...i beleive we use 7 layers while the germans use 11.

With our current technology, one should be enough!
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: conjur
Water getting into cracks or under the roadway, freezing/thawing/re-freezing/thawing.

What about Florida potholes, are they just special ;)
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: conjur
Water getting into cracks or under the roadway, freezing/thawing/re-freezing/thawing.

What about Florida potholes, are they just special ;)
Yeah...they're all 'special'.

I would guess the heat buckling the pavement and contracting on a cool night.
 

BooGiMaN

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Originally posted by: gregshin
i also saw something in the history channel that USA roads use a cheaper layering process compared to the autobahn in europe...i beleive we use 7 layers while the germans use 11.

last thing u wanna do is hit a pothole on the autobahn at those speeds
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: gregshin
i also saw something in the history channel that USA roads use a cheaper layering process compared to the autobahn in europe...i beleive we use 7 layers while the germans use 11.

last thing u wanna do is hit a pothole on the autobahn at those speeds

actually the last thing you would want to do is have a tie-rod fail on you at those speeds, but ok.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: gregshin
i also saw something in the history channel that USA roads use a cheaper layering process compared to the autobahn in europe...i beleive we use 7 layers while the germans use 11.

last thing u wanna do is hit a pothole on the autobahn at those speeds

actually the last thing you would want to do is have a tie-rod fail on you at those speeds, but ok.
actually the really, really last thing you would want to do would be to spill a quart of fuming red nitric acid on your crotch at those speeds, but ok. :p

 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: gregshin
i also saw something in the history channel that USA roads use a cheaper layering process compared to the autobahn in europe...i beleive we use 7 layers while the germans use 11.

last thing u wanna do is hit a pothole on the autobahn at those speeds

actually the last thing you would want to do is have a tie-rod fail on you at those speeds, but ok.
actually the really, really last thing you would want to do would be to spill a quart of fuming red nitric acid on your crotch at those speeds, but ok. :p

coffee would work just as well.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: gregshin
i also saw something in the history channel that USA roads use a cheaper layering process compared to the autobahn in europe...i beleive we use 7 layers while the germans use 11.

last thing u wanna do is hit a pothole on the autobahn at those speeds

actually the last thing you would want to do is have a tie-rod fail on you at those speeds, but ok.
actually the really, really last thing you would want to do would be to spill a quart of fuming red nitric acid on your crotch at those speeds, but ok. :p

coffee would work just as well.
I dunno. There's a difference between simply burning one's genitals versus having them dissolved completely IMO. ;)
 

Tot

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Most of the time, potholes are caused by pebbles/stones/sand that are not sweeped of the tarmacs on the surface of the road.

As a result when vehicles passes by, it grinds the pebbles/stones/sand on the tarmac, creating a mortar/pestle effect on the tarmac. Over time, the particular spot where the pebble/stone/sand is found will eventually become a port hole. Furthermore as the number of stone particle increases as the tarmac itself breaks down, the condition deteriotrates faster.

Most of the time the pebbles/sand/stones are washed from the side of the road to the road itself when there is rain...therefore rain play a factor too.

Its important to keep stones/pebbles and sand of the tarmac, or any trash for that matter.

Regular sweeping should be reccommended.


Do an experiment yourselve. Find a nice, clean road, preferably in a high end neighbourhood where you can keep track of the traffic. Find a spot and throw couple of pebbles/stones at the spot. Come back a week or two later and Ta Da .... Potholes.







 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: gregshin
i also saw something in the history channel that USA roads use a cheaper layering process compared to the autobahn in europe...i beleive we use 7 layers while the germans use 11.

last thing u wanna do is hit a pothole on the autobahn at those speeds

actually the last thing you would want to do is have a tie-rod fail on you at those speeds, but ok.
actually the really, really last thing you would want to do would be to spill a quart of fuming red nitric acid on your crotch at those speeds, but ok. :p

coffee would work just as well.
I dunno. There's a difference between simply burning one's genitals versus having them dissolved completely IMO. ;)

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conjur

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Originally posted by: Tot
Most of the time, potholes are caused by pebbles/stones/sand that are not sweeped of the tarmacs on the surface of the road.

As a result when vehicles passes by, it grinds the pebbles/stones/sand on the tarmac, creating a mortar/pestle effect on the tarmac. Over time, the particular spot where the pebble/stone/sand is found will eventually become a port hole.

Most of the time the pebbles/sand/stones are washed from the side of the road to the road itself when there is rain...therefore rain play a factor too.

Its important to keep stones/pebbles and sand of the tarmac, or any trash for that matter.

Regular sweeping should be reccommended.
Ok, you get out on the expressway at rush hour with a push broom and clear those pebbles. :)
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Tot
lol...thats where the sweeping trucks comes in handy.

pffft...their top speed is like, 12. They're fine for downtown city streets. :)