Postmortem; Analysis, Investigations

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I'd imagine there will be many more stories like this. Will any of them lead to changes? Or charges?



 

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I think he's understandably trying to avoid the political lense by claiming he's looking at crimes since he's a prosecutor, but treason and sedition are crimes with legal definitions, so that's a bit of a cop out. As a prosecutor, he should be able to make that judgment.
 
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Morning headline roundup:



 
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Here's something that should provoke investigations:

10 of the 12 people listed as emergency contacts for the DC rally on Jan 6 worked for the Trump campaign. Seven of the 10 them were on the Trump campaign's payroll during the 2020 election. Altogether, the Trump campaign paid the 10 staffers who worked on the January 6 rally more than $1.4 million in salaries, consulting fees, and reimbursements between 2015 and November 2020,

A spokesperson for the Trump campaign said that the staffers were working on their own, and that the campaign had no ties with the rally. Yeah, right. :rolleyes:

 
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Kevin McCarthy says his votes to overturn the election were not votes to overturn the election. :rolleyes:

He also contradicted his own claim that Trump was responsible for the riot by saying that “I don’t believe he provoked if you listen to what he said at the rally,”

Liars gonna lie

 

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Kevin McCarthy says his votes to overturn the election were not votes to overturn the election. :rolleyes:

He also contradicted his own claim that Trump was responsible for the riot by saying that “I don’t believe he provoked if you listen to what he said at the rally,”

Liars gonna lie

His main task for the last couple of days is to publicly try to re write his own history of complete involvement in this shit.
 
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We've been saying all along it smelled like an inside job:


 

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Ummm... holy shit. Everyone read this now.




On the evening of January 5—the night before a white supremacist mob stormed Capitol Hill in a siege that would leave five dead—the acting secretary of defense, Christopher Miller, was at the White House with his chief of staff, Kash Patel. They were meeting with President Trump on “an Iran issue,” Miller told me. But then the conversation switched gears. The president, Miller recalled, asked how many troops the Pentagon planned to turn out the following day. “We’re like, ‘We’re going to provide any National Guard support that the District requests,’” Miller responded. “And [Trump] goes, ‘You’re going to need 10,000 people.’ No, I’m not talking bullshit. He said that. And we’re like, ‘Maybe. But you know, someone’s going to have to ask for it.’” At that point Miller remembered the president telling him, “‘You do what you need to do. You do what you need to do.’ He said, ‘You’re going to need 10,000.’ That’s what he said. Swear to God.”
 
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Ummm... holy shit. Everyone read this now.




On the evening of January 5—the night before a white supremacist mob stormed Capitol Hill in a siege that would leave five dead—the acting secretary of defense, Christopher Miller, was at the White House with his chief of staff, Kash Patel. They were meeting with President Trump on “an Iran issue,” Miller told me. But then the conversation switched gears. The president, Miller recalled, asked how many troops the Pentagon planned to turn out the following day. “We’re like, ‘We’re going to provide any National Guard support that the District requests,’” Miller responded. “And [Trump] goes, ‘You’re going to need 10,000 people.’ No, I’m not talking bullshit. He said that. And we’re like, ‘Maybe. But you know, someone’s going to have to ask for it.’” At that point Miller remembered the president telling him, “‘You do what you need to do. You do what you need to do.’ He said, ‘You’re going to need 10,000.’ That’s what he said. Swear to God.”
i totally believe they thought trump was just making shit up and being...trump.
did trump know it would go bad since he did suggest such a large number of national guard? that's much harder to prove. sadly, i think any interview of trump would be fruitless. he'd just say "i don't recall" or something to that effect.
 
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Does anyone doubt the GOP had a hand in?

 
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Does anyone doubt the GOP had a hand in?

Guess it depends on what you mean by 'a hand in'. Did they directly participate? Maybe, but that's not established by a long shot.

I do strongly suspect we will find out that administration staff took a 'meh, fuck them' stance when it came to helping out the Capitol though, as it's been established over and over that they viewed their jobs in government as service to Trump and not service to the country.
 
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i totally believe they thought trump was just making shit up and being...trump.
did trump know it would go bad since he did suggest such a large number of national guard? that's much harder to prove. sadly, i think any interview of trump would be fruitless. he'd just say "i don't recall" or something to that effect.

Something about that reeks really badly. What I mean is I'm not buying that motherfucker's claims. That article makes him sound like a silicon valley dudebro using his office to globetrot and brag about it. Honestly though that might have been for the best since it kept them from being around Turmp too much so that he couldn't make serious case for anything while they dismiss all his stupid bullshit. But that story makes him look like a fucking out of touch douchebag that thinks he's fixing the world while he actually accomplished jack fucking shit (I like how the article ends by pointing out none of the claims the guy made with regards to what he supposedly accomplished have actually happened).

One reason why I don't think it makes sense is, I don't think Turmp had any intention of the national guard actually doing anything about the mob (and that's backed up by the fact that they couldn't get a hold of anyone from the White House to get the ok and there seemed to be some deliberate plans to make sure that was the case) so I can't imagine he'd tell them how many they'd need to deal with what he was aiming for. Plus if the National Guard actually had to go in and really fight it out with them, Turmp would be done as President (by that I mean they would have 25th'ed his ass), possibly looking at treason charges, and there'd be hundreds of casualties and the mob would have been slaughtered.

Something tells me that if Turmp said that, he was thinking more that it'd take 10,000 troops to defend him once the coup happened and he was enshrined as President, not that it'd take 10,000 troops to deal with Turmp's mob.

That trio of fuckwits (Miller, Patel, Cohen) need to be investigated. They remind me a lot of the guys that ran Uber. I have a strong hunch they were complicit in what went down and were there to put on a show but since it failed and they know Turmp gives zero fucks about them are now trying to control the narrative to save their own asses. I'm also wondering if the intention wasn't to deliberately set things up to fail to give Turmp justification for shitcanning others and promoting those 3 (recall MyPillow guy's notes). Basically they fuck up getting the guard there, politicians get murdered and/or held hostage, Turmp declares martial law, fires all the DoD people claiming it was their faults, puts sycophant flunkies in and grabs power.

Poor Miller's wife, too stupid to realize that Miller is the reason their rep is shit is because Miller has wiped his ass with his own reputation. Although she might have just been putting on a show as well for the reporter to make Miller's bullshit seem legit.

The part that actually really is troubling is how they're laying the groundwork for more conspiracy shit too. His deep state...um do they not get that's probably happening because of people like him, and Turmp (who was giving people security clearances when they absolutely should not have had them)? Not to mention what Bush Jr and Bush Sr did to totally fuck all of that shit up? Its one thing when the safe guards were there to prevent nuclear war when we had some of the crazy ass generals post WWII, its another when those supposed safe guards are the ones intentionally fucking things up for their own personal whims. My guess is the military command is realizing that if Turmp had been semi-competent, we could be looking at a terrible situation like Germany saw in the 1930s, or Russia under Stalin or Putin, or maybe even just North Korea.

Maybe I'm wrong but I really get a shitty impression of all 3 of them after that article. The writer acts like a fucking Rolling Stones writer (getting Almost Famous vibes), and hope he thought about the possibility behind that conversation ending up on the DoD website being Miller himself.