Post your ATi X1800XT OC Results and Benchmarks Here

jiffylube1024

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Seeing as the card isn't actually going retail for another month, the purpose of this thread is...?
 

nRollo

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Obviously this is a joke, but in a way it's appropriate.

People are talking about the X1800XT as if its a real card you can go to the store and buy, when really it's just a card that has been delayed many times and is supposedly coming out next month in some fashion.

I've got $10 to bet the first person who PMs me that the X1800XT's final launch, if it happens next month, is a lot like the X800XT PE- a few cards here and there, no "at lots of vendors for MSRP or less" like the 7800GTX or GT.

I say this because I think their yield on parts clocked that high is going to be low, not because it's ATI, BTW.

I hope for the sake of the people waiting for this I'm wrong, but don't think I am.

Here we are 6 days after the X1800XLs "launch" and three vendors on Pricewatch have advertised this product, and two of those are over MSRP. I realize not all vendors advertise on Pricewatch, but like ATs article says, the X1800XLs weren't available at all on "launch" date and vendors were only expecting "limited quantities".

I don't think the same core clocked 25% higher is going to fare better for yields.
 

CaiNaM

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Originally posted by: Rollo
I don't think the same core clocked 25% higher is going to fare better for yields.

but this statement is wrong. you have to remember, it's not the same core, it's the defective one's that had the "two-metal layer bug" that prevent higher clock speeds ;)
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: CaiNaM
Originally posted by: Rollo
I don't think the same core clocked 25% higher is going to fare better for yields.

but this statement is wrong. you have to remember, it's not the same core, it's the defective one's that had the "two-metal layer bug" that prevent higher clock speeds ;)

I can't tell if you're joking or not, but you may very well be correct.

 

Topweasel

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That bug was worked out before production. If it was indeed a defective design they would use that proces when they have working version. I am guessing that Yields are low aonly get worse when you look for XT level performance.
 

mindgam3

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Originally posted by: Topweasel
That bug was worked out before production. If it was indeed a defective design they would use that proces when they have working version. I am guessing that Yields are low aonly get worse when you look for XT level performance.

Its just that.. a "guess" nobady really knows, speculation is pointless.
 

Drayvn

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Originally posted by: mindgam3
Originally posted by: Topweasel
That bug was worked out before production. If it was indeed a defective design they would use that proces when they have working version. I am guessing that Yields are low aonly get worse when you look for XT level performance.

Its just that.. a "guess" nobady really knows, speculation is pointless.

If you believe that then why were you speculating in your other post?
 

CaiNaM

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: CaiNaM
Originally posted by: Rollo
I don't think the same core clocked 25% higher is going to fare better for yields.

but this statement is wrong. you have to remember, it's not the same core, it's the defective one's that had the "two-metal layer bug" that prevent higher clock speeds ;)

I can't tell if you're joking or not, but you may very well be correct.
both :)

most of the early xl will be the trashed xt cores, but the reality is that most cards witch are not the.. flaghship? card of the series have gpus which are essentially the same but didn't "cut it" for the high speed part (ie a defective quad so it's disabled and branded a gt as oposed to an xt or whatever). it's not like ati is the only one who does it, but i thought a little jab might be fun -- considering the subject of this thread is rather asinine at this point ;)

this is a bit different as it's a design issue which causes them to not reach higher speeds (meaning you'll likely not get much o/c at all if you get an xl based on one of these chips), and the xt are actually running the "bug free" revisions of those cores...

 
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Originally posted by: Drayvn
Originally posted by: mindgam3
Originally posted by: Topweasel
That bug was worked out before production. If it was indeed a defective design they would use that proces when they have working version. I am guessing that Yields are low aonly get worse when you look for XT level performance.

Its just that.. a "guess" nobady really knows, speculation is pointless.

If you believe that then why were you speculating in your other post?

damn beat me to it!
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: CaiNaM
Originally posted by: Rollo
I don't think the same core clocked 25% higher is going to fare better for yields.

but this statement is wrong. you have to remember, it's not the same core, it's the defective one's that had the "two-metal layer bug" that prevent higher clock speeds ;)

Of course, that is why it is coming out a month later?

Dont tell me you bought into that line of BS from ATI did you?
 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: CaiNaM
Originally posted by: Rollo
I don't think the same core clocked 25% higher is going to fare better for yields.

but this statement is wrong. you have to remember, it's not the same core, it's the defective one's that had the "two-metal layer bug" that prevent higher clock speeds ;)

Your statement thus far has proven to be incorrect. The two buyers of an XL that I'm aware of have newer core revisions that do not have the soft ground problem.