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TimboAA

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High school degree - check
Bachelor's degree - check - Quinnipiac University - Interactive Digital Design
Employment - ______ (no check)


Someone please send me back in time and slap me at the age of 18 for wanting to get a design degree at a school not known for design. What was I thinking? Oh that in 4+ years I'd still want to be making web sites and designing things. Well, sure, I want to be designing things, but what is the question. Okay, well, I do have an idea, but getting into the field of Motion Graphics isn't easy...at least as a college grad. So I now have expanded my horizons to doing any sort of design I feel that I am capable of.

Problem #1 - I didn't take an internship during college because I was too poor and took a job that paid instead. It was sort of related...but not really what employers are looking for. When my kid gets to college, they are going to take the non-paying internship and struggle.

Problem #2 - I don't have "experience." I can't get a job without experience.

Problem #3 - I don't have a job to get experience from. It is a vicious cycle. Not to mention getting into the design field isn't easy. Each year colleges graduate thousands of design students with only a fraction of job openings. Plus the economy right now isn't at its best for it.

Problem #4 - I suck at selling myself, yet, I can do almost anything if I am taught or trained. Eventually I'll find someone who wants to take that risk. (My little bit of optimism)

Problem #5 - Location, location, location. No opportunities in my current location and I can't afford to live in places where there are opportunities.

I was located in CT where I graduated from college, where there were more opportunities than where I am located now (Central/Northern New Hampshire in the boonies... 30minutes to the nearest supermarket/Walmart). I even got offered a job in CT, that I had to reluctantly turn down because each month would put me further into debt. I wouldn't even have broken even once student loans started coming. The sad part is, my mother would have still been paying for my car insurance and cell phone bill. How on earth is anyone supposed to make it now unless you're well-to-do? Now that I'm located in NH and living at home, I get the great perks of no rent (or minimal), free food (or low cost), and free utilities. Of course living at home in the boonies has now squashed the number of my opportunities to a very small handful.

Had I done something like business or a health science, I would actually have a job. Of course I have relatives telling me, "You have a college degree! It means you can be trained!" Of course, maybe its me, but every single job I'm applying for, the rest of the candidates have college degrees. Whoop-dee-frickin-do! A college degree doesn't mean a whole lot, at least not in the area I was looking for jobs. Everyone has a degree! Its my certificate that says I know how to learn and can be trained. Those that are hiring though, seem to want people who already have experience. And for each entry level job (in the design field) there are 100 people applying for it. Which half of them probably went to some fancy art school.

Oh and another thing that bothers me.... I don't "know" anyone. The connections I have with adults and other students, don't do me any good in locating a job. I have just about exhausted all of those possibilities. Ok, I'm done, and no, I'm not looking for sympathy, I'm looking for a job.
 

RagingBITCH

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Cliffs: I got a degree but have no job.

It happens. You'll find a way to break in somehow. It's not what you know but who you know.
 

James Bond

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You're kinda in the same boat as me. All jobs require a few years of experience, but I have none; okay, so I just need to go out and get some experience, but, wait...
 

thehstrybean

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You think you've got it bad?
<--Archaeologist

I've had field experience but I also have 10 years left of school (I'm a sophomore)...Good luck with that...
 

imported_Imp

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Well, looks like I'll be as screwed as you in a year: I have no actual job experience related to my field.

At least you learned the most important lesson of college: you aren't special. Your other 50-100 classmates are either on par or better than you. Some might be worse, but chances are they have connections or are already signed. Oh, and multiply that 50-100 by the number of colleges offering the same program and the "guarantee" of a job goes to hell.
 

Exterous

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Yeah, it sucks and probably won't change. I ran into that same problem myself. Took a couple of shit jobs to get experience - but now all the jobs have moved away (damn michigan economy) so after 2 years I am doing nothing with my degree expect paying the government for it
 

nageov3t

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I was in a similar experience when I graduated... I eventually just reached the conclusion that I was SOL in terms of getting into the publishing industry on account of the fact that I couldn't afford to take an internship during college, so I put the word out with people I knew and eventually found something in a field that has absolutely nothing to do with what I went to school for.

but it pays well and leaves me with a lot of free time... what more could you want? ;)
 

Savij

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You're fine, you just need to move to some place that has jobs available. Go to Boston and get a roommate.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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If you have a skill that people want, it's not hard to become busy. Start by making a simple website/portfolio and for the time being, just do freelance work. Post around on various sites that you offer this type of work and just be self employed until someone offers you a position that you like.

You might have to do some work initially for a low cost, but that doesn't matter, it adds to your portfolio and credibility.
 

PingSpike

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You can either move, or take a job in a different field. I decided I didn't want to move, so I'm working in a different field. I think it may be for the best anyway though...not sure I wanted to keep doing IT (support) stuff.
 

TimboAA

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Originally posted by: -- Jim Shea - Hartford Courant
This final bit of advice is directed toward liberal-arts majors: Break off all contact with friends from college who have degrees in such areas as accounting and finance. These people are now outside your socio-economic class, and getting together with them will only make you feel like a loser -- until, of course, they go to jail.

That quote my girlfriend gave me upon graduation as sort of a funny thing.


Got the portfolio site...and I've got a couple things I can do....which are for the low - cost of free.
 

kami333

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Different field but I ran into the same problem of no experience-no job.

I ended up taking a job that paid far less than the usual, but it's great experience so I guess it's worth it.
 

Idontcare

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
It's not what you know but who you know.

That is only true in terms of getting the job...keeping the job suddenly becomes a matter of what you know.