Possibly the most important science breakthrough happened today (not really)

[Born2bwire]

Right back at you...
The NI instruments are part of the control suite of the Hadron Collider. Again, they have been working with Rossi last November till about March. Come August they sponsor a big LENR focused event...
Just see the material and then call me ignorant & gullible.

http://youtu.be/A4HG9raN_2U

I wish u a little bit of less douchey attitude man...

Bullshit. It's dirty disingenuous associations like this that make Rossi's scams work. NASA's legitimate research into LENR in no way legitimizes Rossi. Trying to associate it with Rossi is just another way that he is able to gull people into such scams.

What's this? A new update. This still seems relevant so I'll just keep quoting my previous statements.

 

[Fritzo]

OK, here's the deal: the standard model of physics has been developed over the last 130 years and has been very reliable since its inception. Every time someone has tried to prove it wrong, they've failed.

Now, you have some guy that comes along with a checkered past showing a way to create energy in a way that would throw the standard model out the window, and he won't show anyone exactly how it works.

When you put it this way, how legit does this sound? Does this mean that the Standard Model can never be modified or proven wrong? No...but if it's going to be done, it will be by a better person with more resources than Rossi.

 

[adlep]

Leaked image of the Rossi's reactor under test:

Description:

[The reactor] is composed of two coaxial steel cylinders. The internal space between the two cylinders contains an electrical heating resistance and the reaction chamber with the active material. The cylinder bases are sealed with heat res
istant sealant for blast furnace use. Pressure sealing is not needed. The whole has been painted in black to increase emissivity and can withstand 1200 °C.

The photo shows a phase of the measurements

At the time of this photo, the average outer surface temperature was 801 °C, with local hot spots of 873 °C. The inner surface temperature ranged from 1100 °C to over 1200 °C. Two electrical heating resistances in parallel (the 4 visible cables). Value of the resistances in parallel: 6 Ohm. AC (50 Hz) input voltage of 147 Volts. Current consumption 24.25 Ampere. Power consumption 3.56 kW. Heat power irradiated by both inner and outer walls, assumed equal for a total of 13.39 kW, including the average ambient temperature of 35 °C. Inner wall of bright white color, unapproachable under 1 meter of distance because of hot air flow. Outer wall measured by thermal camera with 2% measurement precision. Inner wall measurement by laser thermometer from a 1.2 meter distance by the shaky hand of a person who didn’t want to get cooked. Conservative, rounded down values due to heat taken off by convective flow estimated to be at least 8% on the outer wall and low irradiation cosine for the inner wall due to high irradiation angle toward laser thermometer (pointing almost in axis with the inner cylinder).

Stable reaction, without strange happenings. Virtually boring.

COP raises when 1000 °C are exceeded on the outer wall. [Fuel] consumption is that of a [nuclear] fusion reaction, that is, almost nonexistent. A proper estimate would require to turn the thing on and then taking a very long vacation before verifying the actual consumption.

For the sake of completeness, it should be noted that data are preliminary and that inner cylinder measurements will have to be remade with less shaky methods than a laser thermometer, in order to improve results as it’s a delicate measurement, since the inner surface is in contact with the air heated by the surface itself.

This is confirmed by the Rossi himself:
http://rossilivecat.com/

 

[Modelworks]

Leaked image of the Rossi's reactor under test:

So he did the whole thing with nothing but a coil of wire and some ceramics ? That would be the most important science breakthrough if it were not total garbage. How long did it produce these results continuously ? I can produce the same results using the same device and I don't need anything special. Load up the device with thermite and use the heat from the coils to ignite it and it will produce the same results. There are also other compounds that will do the same thing and burn for hours but that isn't producing energy because it doesn't count the energy to create the material burned.

 

[Gibson486]

Right back at you...
The NI instruments are part of the control suite of the Hadron Collider. Again, they have been working with Rossi last November till about March. Come August they sponsor a big LENR focused event...
Just see the material and then call me ignorant & gullible.

http://youtu.be/A4HG9raN_2U

I wish u a little bit of less douchey attitude man...

None cares about what NI does. They provide their stuff to anyone that is willing to pay for it. If they paid Mathworks for Matlab, they would also be in the same boat.

Also, could anyone take a guess as to what the gauge of the wires are?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Oh man that picture :awe:

 

[Gibson486]

So he did the whole thing with nothing but a coil of wire and some ceramics ? That would be the most important science breakthrough if it were not total garbage. How long did it produce these results continuously ? I can produce the same results using the same device and I don't need anything special. Load up the device with thermite and use the heat from the coils to ignite it and it will produce the same results. There are also other compounds that will do the same thing and burn for hours but that isn't producing energy because it doesn't count the energy to create the material burned.

LOL...I thought the same thing...the pic shows nothing.

 

[skyking]

It shows a glowing area inside some wrappings with supposedly ~3 KW of energy going in, and absolutely no containment to measure the energy output. I guess a sucker is born every minute.

 

[Matthiasa]

Hmm current consumption he says...
Hint it does not work like that... ever.
Current is a flow, not something that is consumed.

Yes there is more technobabble to it but whatever.
And as pointed out... lol at the image.

 

[sdifox]

omg I think I found the competition!

 

[jagec]

I'm supposed to believe that a small opening, with an internal temperature of 1200C, and no fans or other air circulation devices, produces enough fast-moving hot air that you can't stand within a meter of it? Extremely doubtful.

If it did, why isn't there any melted insulation or discoloration on those PLASTIC-coated wires?

 

[halik]

None cares about what NI does. They provide their stuff to anyone that is willing to pay for it. If they paid Mathworks for Matlab, they would also be in the same boat.

Also, could anyone take a guess as to what the gauge of the wires are?

This. Bernie Madoff was working with Microsoft by the same logic.

Still unsure if adlep is trolling or just stupid.

 

[adlep]

This. Bernie Madoff was working with Microsoft by the same logic.

Still unsure if adlep is trolling or just stupid.

I'll keep continue posting here from time to time just FYI.
IMHO, the LENR technology is factual. No need for name calling.

 

[sdifox]

This is earth shattering

Rossi, not so much

 

[LTC8K6]

Leaked image of the Rossi's reactor under test:

Is that image and description supposed to be a joke?

 

[LTC8K6]

I build electric furnaces for a living. 3Kw is enough power to heat a 6X6X12 inch chamber to 1,200C in about one hour.

3Kw input will easily account for what I can see in the pic.

13Kw would likely melt that whole device to slag.

 

[DrPizza]

Right back at you...
The NI instruments are part of the control suite of the Hadron Collider. Again, they have been working with Rossi last November till about March. Come August they sponsor a big LENR focused event...
Just see the material and then call me ignorant & gullible.

http://youtu.be/A4HG9raN_2U

I wish u a little bit of less douchey attitude man...

They haven't been "working with" Rossi any more than the grocery store has been "working with" me when I buy a cantelope.

Leaked image of the Rossi's reactor under test:

Well, after looking at Rossi's leaked image, I was able to backwards engineer it and build a perpetual motion machine. When it goes forward, the wind spins the propeller, which turns a generator, which powers the wheels, and has energy left over! I'll even purchase a second website to confirm this.

Let's compare and contrast the child who built this with Rossi:
Similar: Both have the imagination of a 10 year old.
Different: The 10 year old admits it doesn't really work.

 

[LTC8K6]

Hot air...

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/1/4/0/0495041.jpg

 

[adlep]

Greetings,
There is a rumor floating around that the Rossi's technology has been tested/verified by the European equivalent of the UL called SGS...
More about SGS:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Société_Générale_de_Surveillance

http://www.sgs.com/

Rossi is planning a full blown conference on the 8th of September to talk about the results and do a sales prep talks, demos, etc, etc:
http://www.borderlands.de/Links/Kongress080912M.pdf

I will update with an official press release from SGS once it becomes available...

 

[Fritzo]

This is earth shattering

Rossi, not so much

Hey! My wife has that same microphone! I think she's dictating 50 Shades of Grey because she always has that near her when she's reading.

 

[Gibsons]

There is a rumor floating around that Rossi is a scam artist. No, wait, that isn't a rumor.

 

[Fritzo]

They haven't been "working with" Rossi any more than the grocery store has been "working with" me when I buy a cantelope.



Well, after looking at Rossi's leaked image, I was able to backwards engineer it and build a perpetual motion machine. When it goes forward, the wind spins the propeller, which turns a generator, which powers the wheels, and has energy left over! I'll even purchase a second website to confirm this.

Let's compare and contrast the child who built this with Rossi:
Similar: Both have the imagination of a 10 year old.
Different: The 10 year old admits it doesn't really work.

The only reason your model didn't work is you didn't add a treadmill.

 

[sdifox]

Hey! My wife has that same microphone! I think she's dictating 50 Shades of Grey because she always has that near her when she's reading.

lulz you should get her some microphone attachments

ahahahahahahha this is too funny


http://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-Magic-...nd+attachments

 

[halik]

No independent verification, rumors about customers, rumors about verification, leaked pictures, no published work anywhere, bullshit claims about "working with" XY when you're really purchasing goods from XY. Again you'd have to be completely stupid not to see this plays out like every other perpetual motion scam in history.

Anyone with a half brain would realize that if this sort of thing was factual, their burden of proof is incredibly high and would go out of their way to have this independently verified and tested. Anyone trying to sell snake oil would engage in the very exact FUD above.

 

[adlep]

Rumors, leaked pictures, no independent verification, no published work anywhere, bullshit claims about "working with" XY when you're really purchasing goods from XY. Again you'd have to be completely stupid not to see this plays out like every other perpetual motion scam in history.

This is different. For reals.
Edit: Lookup some of the interviews with Rossi on YT or the Internet.