possible to mod NES zapper to work on LCD tv's?

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sao123

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why hasnt anyone come out with an NES zapper that works on newer LCD/plasma TV's?

 

erwos

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An NES zapper? The technology doesn't work with progressive display TVs.

A "zapper" that works? Well, the Wiimote and the Time Crisis 4 GunCon come to mind...
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: erwos
An NES zapper? The technology doesn't work with progressive display TVs.

A "zapper" that works? Well, the Wiimote and the Time Crisis 4 GunCon come to mind...

so how would you mod either one to work on a standard NES?
 

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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: erwos
An NES zapper? The technology doesn't work with progressive display TVs.

A "zapper" that works? Well, the Wiimote and the Time Crisis 4 GunCon come to mind...

so how would you mod either one to work on a standard NES?
You can't. As far as I am aware, you are SOL. I'd like to be proven wrong about this, though.
 

sao123

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well there is an official FC portable 2 which comes with a wireless gun and a 2 inch LCD tft screen and plays duck hunt.
so apparently someone has.

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Originally posted by: sao123
Originally posted by: erwos
An NES zapper? The technology doesn't work with progressive display TVs.

A "zapper" that works? Well, the Wiimote and the Time Crisis 4 GunCon come to mind...

so how would you mod either one to work on a standard NES?

You can't. The way the zapper works is that it's actually a photo sensor (I think that's the right name for it)... the zapper doesn't shoot anything. It actually RECEIVES a beam of light transmitted from the TV. When you pull the trigger while playing a game, you notice a flash on the screen where everything but the target area is black. This is the light being beamed from your TV. If the photosensor sees the light coming up the tube of the gun, it's a hit. LCD TVs don't output light like CRT TVs do. Possibly the only way you could modify an original zapper to work is if you could adjust the sensitivity to ridiculous levels, in which case simply pointing it at anywhere at the screen and pulling the trigger would register a hit because AFAIK there is just as much light output by white as there is black on an LCD.

So the bottom line is that you can't modify a zapper to be used on an LCD TV. At least if you CAN, it would probably require also re-coding the system by which the game registers hits. In which case, for the parts and time required to make it work you'd be better off buying a cheap CRT TV to play the games on.
 

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Originally posted by: sao123
well there is an official FC portable 2 which comes with a wireless gun and a 2 inch LCD tft screen and plays duck hunt.
so apparently someone has.

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I'm sure it works flawlessly too. :-\
 

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Why are you so obsessed with playing duck hunt on NES? Shooting Range in Wii Play is duck hunt for the Wii. Just play that.

Shooting Range - Players go through various rounds of shooting balloons, targets (includes Mii targets, shooting them creates a deduction of points), frisbees, soda cans, and UFOs. There are targets that have the faces of the player's Miis which give points when the opponent's Mii is shot. Ducks in the style of the ducks from Duck Hunt also fly by and can be shot for additional points. Bonus points are awarded for consecutive hits without missing.
 

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Best way to play Duck Hunt on a modern TV:
Hook up a PC running an emulator. Either get a lightgun made for PCs, or use the Wiimote on it. The PS3 guncon (or maybe even ps2) could also be an option.
 

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Originally posted by: Fox5
Best way to play Duck Hunt on a modern TV:
Hook up a PC running an emulator. Either get a lightgun made for PCs, or use the Wiimote on it. The PS3 guncon (or maybe even ps2) could also be an option.
Actually, if you've got a Wii, you could just hack it and install FCE Ultra GX. The wiki claims it has Wiimote zapper support.
 

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Apparently the Zapper doesn't work with flat screen CRTs either. Just the curved ones. Nintendo will probably come out with modded NES Zapper games for Wii that work with the Wiimote I expect. Of course you could always have some fun with eBay and pick up a small CRT for older games. There's quite a few for under $50 believe it or not.
 

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Originally posted by: mmntech
Apparently the Zapper doesn't work with flat screen CRTs either. Just the curved ones. Nintendo will probably come out with modded NES Zapper games for Wii that work with the Wiimote I expect. Of course you could always have some fun with eBay and pick up a small CRT for older games. There's quite a few for under $50 believe it or not.



Not that they really need more cash cows, but I bet that if Nintendo made a disk with as many of the 18 titles that supported the zapper on it as possible for the Wii they would probably make enough money to at least build a Scrooge McDuck style vault to store their mountains of cash in and have enough left over to hire a security team to keep the Beagle Boys at bay.
 

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Originally posted by: mmntech
Apparently the Zapper doesn't work with flat screen CRTs either. Just the curved ones. Nintendo will probably come out with modded NES Zapper games for Wii that work with the Wiimote I expect. Of course you could always have some fun with eBay and pick up a small CRT for older games. There's quite a few for under $50 believe it or not.

Flat-screen CRTs generally have a glossy/reflective screen that makes it not work well. Otherwise I don't think there's anything really stopping it from working.
 

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Apparently the Zapper doesn't work with flat screen CRTs either. Just the curved ones. Nintendo will probably come out with modded NES Zapper games for Wii that work with the Wiimote I expect. Of course you could always have some fun with eBay and pick up a small CRT for older games. There's quite a few for under $50 believe it or not.

I have used a light gun on flat screen CRT's. I even used it on some very old plasma TV's, but it didnt work well. This sadly does not work on new plasma or LCD screens.
 

exdeath

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You'd need a CMOS sensor and image processor (eg a digital camera) and then convert the capture to something compatible with a NES signal. Even then it may not work as the NES software has already moved on at least 3 frames ago while the LCD is showing outdated images from a framebuffer.

Or just buy an old TV for $5.
 
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