Possible to make MP3's into quality file types?

[HeXen]

most all my purchased online songs are 128kb mp3. I don't want to just convert the file types, i want to actually make them like they were on CD...is it possible or is the intended quality forever lost?

 

[sdifox]

lossy means stuff were lost.

 

[HeXen]

So technically theres no way to actually make it better quality?
*i just found this program called Platinumnotes.com. but theres not trial or demo. they want $100 flat out for the software. anyone know if it works?
seems suspicious but i'm not finding much else.

 

[sdifox]

So technically theres no way to actually make it better quality?

not just technically, in reality too

stuff were taken away, they ain't coming back.

 

[SonicIce]

torrent them since u already bought them u can't feel guilty

 

[Venom20]

torrent them since u already bought them u can't feel guilty

This is honestly your best bet. The mp3's that you purchased are already lacking in info. Trying to increase their quality will just lead to worse sounding tracks as you won't be able to improve upon what is missing.

 

[nsafreak]

If anything you might actually make them worse. You can't bring back what wasn't there to begin with.

 

[Midwayman]

And this is why purchasing mp3 is a bad idea. Too bad you can't get flac of most stuff.

 

[Rifter]

No, you do know the definition of lossy right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lossy_compression

 

[DaveSimmons]

Yell "enhance!" like they do on TV.


MP3 is like JPEG images. Look at the edges of lines in a JPEG, notice the smearing and fringing of the colors? That's how they made it smaller, by making something that was similar to the original but not the same. The quality is gone forever.

Out of curiosity, where did you buy the songs? Most legal sites like Amazon sell 256 kbps not 128.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

On this episode of troll science...

I don't even know how someone could think it's possible. How can you upgrade something that has been permanently degraded?

If you want decent quality, you need to buy MP3s and M4As starting at 256kbps.

 

[vi edit]

Apple amnesty program when icloud goes online?

 

[Anubis]

And this is why purchasing mp3 is a bad idea. Too bad you can't get flac of most stuff.

this, i would buy MP3s from amazon if i could get them as FLAC

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

this, i would buy MP3s from amazon if i could get them as FLAC

256kbps with a good quality encoder is probably the best in terms of size/quality ratio. Music from online stores is meant for PMPs, which have capacities ranging from 4-160GB. FLACs are just fine on normal Hard Drives with tons of storage capacity, but on PMPs it's just not a viable option if you have more than a few thousand songs coupled with photos and videos.

They never really made these services for complete audio purists, plus it would cost them a lot more to host 30+MB songs rather than 7MB-8MB.

Most albums are still coming out in CDs, so they're still a viable option, especially if you prefer physical media.

 

[Anubis]

im well aware of that which is why i still buy CDs, however if they sold FLAC is would be perfect because i would be able to get them instantly instead of waiting 1-2 days. and then i just convert copys to MP3 if i cared to, which is what i do now

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

im well aware of that which is why i still buy CDs, however if they sold FLAC is would be perfect because i would be able to get them instantly instead of waiting 1-2 days. and then i just convert copys to MP3 if i cared to, which is what i do now

Fair enough. I guess the only thing impeding them from doing so is enough consumer demand and the hosting costs, which would probably mean they'd probably sell FLAC songs at around $1.29 and albums at $12.99.

 

[Phynaz]

I don't even know how someone could think it's possible. How can you upgrade something that has been permanently degraded?

Nice way to come down on somebody for asking a question.

As far upgrading something that has been degraded, we have these things called computers. They are very good at doing this kind of thing. For example they can rebuild the following degraded data:

1,2,3,#,5,%^^,!,8,9.

You may want to look into the research Intel is doing to image recovery / enhancement. Pretty incredible stuff really.

 

[sdifox]

Nice way to come down on somebody for asking a question.

As far upgrading something that has been degraded, we have these things called computers. They are very good at doing this kind of thing. For example they can rebuild the following degraded data:

1,2,3,#,5,%^^,!,8,9.

You may want to look into the research Intel is doing to image recovery / enhancement. Pretty incredible stuff really.

but we are not talking about error correction. using your example it would be more like

1,2,3,3x5,7,8,9. 4 and 6 were deemed to be close enough to 5 and were compressed to 5 to save 1 unit. You cannot possibly reconstruct it back to 4,5,6.

 

[uhohs]

:awe:

 

[sdifox]

good god...

 

[uhohs]

:
:hmm:

 

[Midwayman]

256kbps with a good quality encoder is probably the best in terms of size/quality ratio. Music from online stores is meant for PMPs, which have capacities ranging from 4-160GB. FLACs are just fine on normal Hard Drives with tons of storage capacity, but on PMPs it's just not a viable option if you have more than a few thousand songs coupled with photos and videos.

They never really made these services for complete audio purists, plus it would cost them a lot more to host 30+MB songs rather than 7MB-8MB.

Most albums are still coming out in CDs, so they're still a viable option, especially if you prefer physical media.

Sure, but I want an archival copy as well. That's what flac is. I don't buy the bandwidth issue. I'll pay the $0.0001 extra it costs to send me the song. I think the real deal is record labels being deeply uncomfortable with loss-less audio for sale on the net. That and maybe most people just not knowing what to do with it.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Nice way to come down on somebody for asking a question.

As far upgrading something that has been degraded, we have these things called computers. They are very good at doing this kind of thing. For example they can rebuild the following degraded data:

1,2,3,#,5,%^^,!,8,9.

You may want to look into the research Intel is doing to image recovery / enhancement. Pretty incredible stuff really.

Come down on him how? It's just common sense.

It's similar to the kind of BS they do on CSI with "enhance".

There's nothing to recover when going from 128kbps to something higher. It's permanently lost data. It's data that was taken away from the original song permanently in the name of space savings.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Sure, but I want an archival copy as well. That's what flac is. I don't buy the bandwidth issue. I'll pay the $0.0001 extra it costs to send me the song. I think the real deal is record labels being deeply uncomfortable with loss-less audio for sale on the net. That and maybe most people just not knowing what to do with it.

I already gave my take on that.

 

[lotust]

its not common sense to everyone... its computer lingo and not everyone gets it like we do.