Possible to install SATA drivers from CD?

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KillaKilla

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I've recently recieved a brand-spanking-new Seagate 7200.7 80GB. Unfortunately, I got an SATA drive. Which is now biting me, my installation of WinXP, and my patience in their proverbial arses.

I pressed F6 at the start of the install, aand it came up with a message to insert the disk "Manufaturer-supplied hardware support disk" Then, after it failed to recognize the Abit-provided motherboard CD, I pressed esc to cancel. It went on to fail to recognize the SATA HDD, and it said

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setup was unable to load support for the mass storage device you specified. Currently setup will load support for the following mass storage devices.setup was unable to load support for the mass storage device you specified. Currently setup will load support for the following mass storage devices.

(none)

? To specify additional SDSI adaptors. CD-ROM drives, or special disk controllers for use with windows, including those for which you have a device support disk from a mass storage device manufacturer, press S.
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I insert the Abit motherboard CD, and press "S"
So I'm now staring at a screen that says:

Please insert the disk labeled
Manufacturer-supplied hardware support disk
into Drive A:
? Press ENTER when ready.
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So I press enter a dozen or so times, to no avail.
So I press esc to cancel, again.
And I get to the point where I would format a drive, and of course there is no detected drive to format.

Normally I would have simply installed a floppy drive and used the 3.5" disk labeled "SATA driver disk". But of the myriad floppy cables I have, none fit into the slot on the MB. I'm using the correct end of the cable (the end with the twist goes towards the drive, right?). It seems the motherboard slot has too many pins. All the cables have a filled hole where a pin shouldn't be - but the MB has a pin there which is butting up against the filled slot on the cable.

So now I'm staring a floppy disk with the drivers on it which windows install can use, but the MB can't, a CD also with the drivers that the PC can use but windows install can't, and a computer that should be bootable by now but isn't.

So I as kyou guys this: is it posible to make windows see the drivers on the CD, or somehow get the system to see the drivers without a floppy drive?

EDIT: added the quote boxes for clarity.
 
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KillaKilla

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
you need to slipstream the driver into your install CD. F6 only works with floppies.
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How might I do this? All slipstream guides seem to be for service packs, not drivers.
 
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FlyingPenguin

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It's easier just to temporarily connect a floppy. Who doesn't have a spare floppy lying around that builds his own systems?

 
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KillaKilla

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I might be able to borrow a USB floppy, but will the installer support that?

I have spare floppy drives and cables, but the motherboard's floppy connector doesn't fit them, it has a pin in a place it shouldn't (compared to other MBs)
 
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Cheesetogo

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IUt sounds to me like your trying to connect your floopy to the ide port on your motherboard. There should be a similar looking port that's labeled "floppy" or somthing like that, it'll be slightly smaller.
 
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MDme

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it is very unlikely that the floppy cable won't connect to your mobo IF you are really doing it right. I agree that the best way to do it is to use a spare floppy. OR you may try to get the files onto a CD (just by burning them there) and try to put that in the CD drive when it asks you for the driver.
 
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KillaKilla

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
usb floppy++
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Will it see a USB floppy as drive A: ?

Originally posted by: MDme
it is very unlikely that the floppy cable won't connect to your mobo IF you are really doing it right. I agree that the best way to do it is to use a spare floppy. OR you may try to get the files onto a CD (just by burning them there) and try to put that in the CD drive when it asks you for the driver.
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I've already tried using a CD with the drivers on it, it doesn't work.

Originally posted by: Cheesetogo
IUt sounds to me like your trying to connect your floopy to the ide port on your motherboard. There should be a similar looking port that's labeled "floppy" or somthing like that, it'll be slightly smaller.
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I was putting it in the floppy slot, it has about 30 pins as opposed to the 40 on stantard IDE. The problem is in the slot - it has one too many pins. There is supposed to be a missing pin 2 from the end, but the MB's connector has a pin there. I checked 4 other motherboards, none of them have that pin there.
 
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stevty2889

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Originally posted by: Kensai
Can I get a picture of the slot? This is intresting. :)
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Actualy it's somewhat common for some floppy cables to have one of the holes blocked, as they came with a motherboard that had a pin removed in that spot, to prevent the cable from being put in backwards..you should be able to pick up a standard floppy cable really cheap, from just about any computer store, just be sure to look and make sure it doesn't have any of the holes plugged so you know it will work with your motherboard.
 
The Boston Dangler

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I hope you were using 2 different disk drives during install. Windows doesn't allow multi-session during install.
Doesn't SP2 install correctly on SATA?
It may be possible to change the drive letter of the second drive to A:, using partition magic, or similar.
 
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Slowlearner

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I recently installed Win2K on brand new PC with only a 80 GB SATA drive and didnt need floppy drive or separate drivers. If the motherboard supports SATA drives you dont need a floppy, the Windows XP installation will work fine.

So first check if the mb supports SATA, or if BIOS upgrade is necessary. Find the mb manual or download it from ABIT's site and check the drive connections and other settings, and get the SATA drivers if any available from them.

If it does, then boot up the system and stop at the setup and see if it recognizes the HD correctly, set it for auto detect, also change the boot order to CDROM first. If you have to have separate drivers, connect up a floppy drive temporarily as suggested - there has to be something real simple that you are overlooking- and the trying the installation. A USB floppy drive is unlikely to work.
 
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stevty2889

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Drivers are needed for motherboards that don't have native SATA, if the SATA is conrolled by an add in chip, rather than the southbridge, then a floppy with drivers is usualy needed. I don't see you saying what motherboard you have anywhere. What motherboard do you have? How many SATA ports does it have? A lot of the Nforce based chipset motherboars have 4 sata, 2 are native, and 2 are from an add on chip.
 
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stevty2889

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Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
like the man said, use XP with SP2 - no F6 or floppy needed
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SP2 doesn't make a differance, it doesn't add any SATA driver support, if you needed the floppy before you still need it..if you didn't need it before you still don't need it..
 
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Mr Duck

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I ran into the same problem and had to copy the sata drivers to a floppy than during xp install , set up raid for your hard-drive and than the mobo should recognize the sata drive. You should be asked to see the drivers (which you should have on floppy) during the raid set-up.
 
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