I might have some news for owners of the 8KHA+.
Simply visit EPOX GERMANY and klick the first link under AKTUELLES on the right top side of the page. You'll be directed to a pdf-file explaining some very interesting sort of solution for the problem
Possible solution for 8KHA+/GF4-dilemma ?!?
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I might have some news for owners of the 8KHA+.
Simply visit EPOX GERMANY and klick the first link under AKTUELLES on the right top side of the page. You'll be directed to a pdf-file explaining some very interesting sort of solution for the problem
I can't believe as a manufacturer they would even suggest that. They better cover their a$$ as far as warranty coverage is concerned, or they'll find out real fast how "sue happy" americans are.
Jen
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another interesting article
<< By case users has difficulty in installing VisionTek GF4 Ti4600 graphic card on EPoX EP-8KHA+ and EP-8KHA, the first solution will be removing the CE6 capacitor. If users are not experienced in solder iron, they can use pliers to remove this component. If users are still confused with it or have any questions, they can contact any EPoX branch office in worldwide. >>
Jen
<< By case users has difficulty in installing VisionTek GF4 Ti4600 graphic card on EPoX EP-8KHA+ and EP-8KHA, the first solution will be removing the CE6 capacitor. If users are not experienced in solder iron, they can use pliers to remove this component. If users are still confused with it or have any questions, they can contact any EPoX branch office in worldwide. >>
Jen
Don Vito Corleone
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I'm glad I never invested in the Epox mobo, as the solutions I have read about sound a lot scarier than just buying a new motherboard. Bummer for Epox, but they should have made the board comply with industry standards in the first place!
LOL! I can't believe they would suggest that either!!! There's no way I'd ever do that! I'd get a new board!!!
<< If users are not experienced in solder iron, they can use pliers to remove this component. >>
oh my god!!
Hehe It's releases like that that make me glad I went with my Soltek. Just start pulling stuff people, you don't need that capacitor it's just there for looks
I wonder what their official response will be if we e-mail them with complains that VIA chipset is buggy...
Here is my guess:
<< By case users has stability problems on EPoX EP-8KHA+ and EP-8KHA, the first solution will be removing the VT8366A North Bridge
and VT8233 South Bridge and replacing it with NForce IGP. If users are not experienced in solder iron, they can use pliers to remove these components. If users are still confused with it or have any questions, they can contact any EPoX branch office in worldwide. >>
Here is my guess:
<< By case users has stability problems on EPoX EP-8KHA+ and EP-8KHA, the first solution will be removing the VT8366A North Bridge
and VT8233 South Bridge and replacing it with NForce IGP. If users are not experienced in solder iron, they can use pliers to remove these components. If users are still confused with it or have any questions, they can contact any EPoX branch office in worldwide. >>
<< I wonder what their official response will be if we e-mail them with complains that VIA chipset is buggy... >>
Take those pliers....
Mem
Lifer
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Some more info over at NV News on the subject(LINK FIXED),it says this,
<< Dear Users,
Since March 1, 2002 here at EPoX USA we have been busily working to find out the cause of the problems between the capacitors on the 8KHA(+) and those on the Visiontek GeForce 4 Ti4600. As of today (March 7, 2002) we are prepared to offer this explanation of the cause of the problem and the following solution. First off we?d like to take the time to thank our customers that took time out of their day to let us know of the problem. Here at EPoX customer satisfaction is our number one priority. EPoX?s R/D department during the creation of the 8KHA+ decided that the stability of the DDR memory during over clocking was of utmost importance thus the reason for the numerous capacitors. That?s one of the reasons why the 8KHA+ has much a great overclocking performance. At the time of design, no Video cards had any mechanical issues nor did it have a problem with any video cards in the foreseeable future. Now almost a full year after the final design of the 8KHA(+) was set we have started to have a minor conflict.
Testing with some of the GeForce 4 Ti4600s in our labs has pointed to a problem in which your Ti 4600 card could potentially be damaged if inserted improperly or under force. We would advise all 8KHA(+) owners to use utmost caution when inserting video cards that match that description. Also after testing, we have concluded that there is no significant problem or issue with the motherboard capacitor and the video card capacitor touching. If you own an EPoX 8KHA(+) and it has a definite conflict in which you can not insert your video card there are several solutions available. The preferred solution is to contact your nearest EPoX location. The other solution is to take it to a certified computer technician where they can remove the offending capacitor. It is not recommended that you do this procedure yourself since if done incorrectly it could damage your motherboard and/or your own safety.
We are currently working with manufacturers that do not have this issue and will promote heavily and give all of our EPoX users a chance to buy a G Force 4 Ti 4600 at a lower price.
As always here at EPoX we are glad you have let us know your comments and your concerns with our product. We are glad to be your motherboard of choice and look forward to providing all your future motherboard needs.
Samuel Kang
Marketing / Product Manager
Production Department
North American Operation
EPoX International, Inc. USA
>>
<< Dear Users,
Since March 1, 2002 here at EPoX USA we have been busily working to find out the cause of the problems between the capacitors on the 8KHA(+) and those on the Visiontek GeForce 4 Ti4600. As of today (March 7, 2002) we are prepared to offer this explanation of the cause of the problem and the following solution. First off we?d like to take the time to thank our customers that took time out of their day to let us know of the problem. Here at EPoX customer satisfaction is our number one priority. EPoX?s R/D department during the creation of the 8KHA+ decided that the stability of the DDR memory during over clocking was of utmost importance thus the reason for the numerous capacitors. That?s one of the reasons why the 8KHA+ has much a great overclocking performance. At the time of design, no Video cards had any mechanical issues nor did it have a problem with any video cards in the foreseeable future. Now almost a full year after the final design of the 8KHA(+) was set we have started to have a minor conflict.
Testing with some of the GeForce 4 Ti4600s in our labs has pointed to a problem in which your Ti 4600 card could potentially be damaged if inserted improperly or under force. We would advise all 8KHA(+) owners to use utmost caution when inserting video cards that match that description. Also after testing, we have concluded that there is no significant problem or issue with the motherboard capacitor and the video card capacitor touching. If you own an EPoX 8KHA(+) and it has a definite conflict in which you can not insert your video card there are several solutions available. The preferred solution is to contact your nearest EPoX location. The other solution is to take it to a certified computer technician where they can remove the offending capacitor. It is not recommended that you do this procedure yourself since if done incorrectly it could damage your motherboard and/or your own safety.
We are currently working with manufacturers that do not have this issue and will promote heavily and give all of our EPoX users a chance to buy a G Force 4 Ti 4600 at a lower price.
As always here at EPoX we are glad you have let us know your comments and your concerns with our product. We are glad to be your motherboard of choice and look forward to providing all your future motherboard needs.
Samuel Kang
Marketing / Product Manager
Production Department
North American Operation
EPoX International, Inc. USA
>>
Jen
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So they want us to take our offending MB out and send it to the nearest Epox location, eh? And do WHAT while it sits in a stack somewhere, and I have no computer til they get around to sending it back. Could be weeks, man. PLUS I have to pay for shipping. That really stinks, and I'm NOT going to do it. And with my luck, they'll just send me another MB and not modify the old one - of course the new one will also be defective.
My Epox mb is going back to where I bought it, and I'll give Asus my money. Screw Epox.
My Epox mb is going back to where I bought it, and I'll give Asus my money. Screw Epox.
Mem
Lifer
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Some more news on GF4 Ti 4600 boards that are recommended by Epox (compatible with the 8KHA+),
<< Multi-Hardware has posted up a short list of Ti 4600-based cards which are compatible with the Epox 8KHA+ motherboard.
MSI Ti4600 8872
WINFAST Ti4600 A250 Ultra TD AGP card
Gainward Ti4600 ULTRA/750XP AGP card >>
Link .
<< Multi-Hardware has posted up a short list of Ti 4600-based cards which are compatible with the Epox 8KHA+ motherboard.
MSI Ti4600 8872
WINFAST Ti4600 A250 Ultra TD AGP card
Gainward Ti4600 ULTRA/750XP AGP card >>
Link .
lol I dunno if I would wanna desolder a cap, but if they say so they better be willing to RMA everyones board
Anubis
No Lifer
according to Mems post the Gainwind will work woth my bord and that all i really care about as long as one of them will fit ill be happy
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