Possible Reason/Solution for Pro2a Multiplier Problems!

AMD4ME2

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Hey guys,

I just read this at HardOCP and thought it might be relevant to the problems everyone was having with adjusting the mulitplier, Let me know what you think.

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I read your review of the K7T Pro2 motherboard, and have found it to be very accurate. Not only does it state all the good things about the board, but also the bad things I've found. I personally have the -A model, with ATA100 but that doesn't make a difference in what I am trying to tell.

I was in the same position as you (overclocking-wise) until just a few hours after I read the review. My computer would not boot at any multiplier above 9x. I got it to work, however, by writing over the L7 bridges, therefore setting the default voltage to 1.85v instead of 1.65. This is my theory about the problem:

When the motherboard starts up, it sets the multiplier, then the voltage, then the FSB frequency. That way, if I use multiplier to overclock, it doesn't have enough voltage to get the CPU going and crashes. However, if I use FSB to overclock, it has already set the new voltage and will work. By making the CPU start out at high voltage (1.85v) it will always have enough voltage to start, unless I try for something ridiculous like 1.25GHZ :)

Also, the default voltage max is set to 1.7. There are a few BIOS upgrades available though. The official update 1.9 adds up to 1.8, but 1.825 and 1.85 are added when I pencil the L7. There is also a "beta overclocker's bios" 1.0b14 that adds all OC'ing options (timings, CAS, etc.) to the board.


Though it's not much of a hassle to pencil the L7 bridges, MSI really should change the voltage first, THEN the multiplier. I don't mean to dis your review, I just want to inform people why this problem happens, as it seems to happen to MANY overclockers.

 

Technonut

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That still would not explain the issue of setting the multiplier at 900, and POSTing and running at 500MHz, and higher multiplier settings POSTing and running much lower than set to on certain Pro2A's. The Pro2A does not have the ability to choose a lower multiplier than default clock to begin with. I had the problem with 2 Loctite unlocked 800 T-Birds that multiplier overclocked just fine on the KT7. I even re-did the Loctite on one of them even though I knew it didn't need it.
 

heng1028

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i am running at 1 gig (9.5x105)

and i tried every version of bios and no problem for me to get to 1gig

 

DaddyG

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Techno, I beg to differ. I think that the mobo attempts to set a higher multiplier fails because of the lower voltage and then gets 'confused'. Setting the default voltage higher, allows the cpu to initialize at the higher voltage. The voltage can be set lower in the BIOS if needed but it will still initialize at the higher voltage.
 

oaydin

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just closed L7 bridges and nope, it doesn't work. voltaje can't be the problem here bc my stupid MSI was working normally than one day.... u know the story
 

AMD4ME2

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Well it was worth a shot I guess, I just hope they get that all squared a way before the "Turbo" board is out..
 

Technonut

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DaddyG, I set the voltage in the BIOS at 1.85, and it still would not multiplier overclock correctly. So upon bootup, the processor should have been getting 1.85 since it was set in the BIOS. It is still an issue that needs to be addressed and corrected by MSI. My board was just a random purchase, and seeing review sites and others having the same issue makes me wonder how wide spread this is. Maybe many are not being reported simply because people are FSB overclocking instead of multiplier overclocking, or not overclocking at all.
 

PCComp

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Just try it!!! I mean, if it solves the problem, you'd be everyone's hero. Well, not exactly, but I'm sure others would be appreciative; MSI would have something more to work with.

--- It's hard to find a resolution if you can't replicate the problem! ---
 

AMD4ME2

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I can't try it cause I don't own the board :) I've been following the topic religiously though because I plan on getting the MSI Turbo K7T.
 

Subversal

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I had no problems reaching 1ghz and 900mhz on my two Durons without touching the L7's. I connected them though but can't get my 900 stable past 927... so I just keep it 900. The 1ghz also is stuck at 1000. So all the L7's did was up my volts to 1.9.