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Portis: "No big deal if Vick hosted Dog Fighting"
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tfcmasta97
Platinum Member
we fight some animals. we eat others. do what you want on your property
jlbenedict
Banned
Vick should be banned from the league, for life.
Right after you take out Tank Johnson and most of the Bengals.
Seriously, why is this even a felony? I understand weapons possession, domestic violence, heck - even drugs. But dogfighting? Do whatever you want on your own property as long as it doesn't cause harm to any other person.
bucwylde23
Diamond Member
If you listen to the interview it sounds like Portis has the IQ of a rock. Who cares what that idiot says.
jlbenedict
Banned
Its cruelty to animals and its illegal. Do you not have any ounce of a heart?
Also, Wikipedia sums it up with a few important notes:
"Dog fighting is a fight between game dogs. This blood sport is utilized for entertainment and may also create a revenue stream from stud fees and admission fees. It is illegal gambling, however, that is at the heart of modern dog fighting. This practice has strong links with organized crime and gangs. If caught dog fighting one can serve many years in prison and will be serverely punished.
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"Dog fighting in North America is illegal. Despite legality issues, dogs are still commonly used for fighting purposes all across North America. Foreign breeds, such as the Dogo Argentino (used widely in South America) and Presa Canario (used in Spain) are also gaining popularity in North America, especially where American Pit Bull Terriers are being banned. The Mexican film Amores perros main story involves dog fighting and shows the underground environment where they take place. Dog fighting is increasingly practiced by gangs, because it is often considered intimidating if a member has a powerful fighting dog by his side. Michael Vick , quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons, has recently been in the news for allegedly being involved in an illegal dog fighting operation. He has steadfastly denied these claims, despite the assertions of many witnesses."
Also, a few important notes from an ASPCA source:
"This good-natured patina is stripped away quickly in conversation with undercover cruelty investigators. Constantly on guard for their safety, these investigators describe an environment of casual cruelty and easy violence. Defeated dogs are killed and dumped; stolen dogs and cats are used to train fighters and give them their first taste of blood. Suspicious of strangers, handlers make no secret of the treatment they reserve for informants. Yet participants and owners do not consider the sport a brutal one."
So, you still think its ok?
And more..:
"Dog fighters represent a range of personality types and psychological disorders," says Stephanie LaFarge, Ph.D., Senior Director, ASPCA Counseling Services. Like anyone, they are molded by their environment and begin to develop a system of values early. "School life offers them little fulfillment and humiliates them into doing socially unacceptable things in an environment where beating the system is the goal."
"Self esteem is an important issue with this population," adds Officer Mark MacDonald, ASPCA Humane Law Enforcement special investigator. "Fighting gives them the respect and power that they do not have in other areas of their lives."
"Many fighters come from non-responsive homes and communities with limited social or economic opportunity," he says. "They never acquire the tools to excel. With dog fighting, they are accepted, especially if they have a winning dog. Well known and respected in their circle, they are emulated by others. They gain a tremendous satisfaction and positive reinforcement from their new 'friends.' And because of their commitment to the care and training of their dog, their dog is a winner, and so are they."
"A new element has been added to the organized world of dog fighting over the past 15 to 20 years, much to the dismay of "traditional" fighters. More frequently, dog fights are informal, street corner and playground activities. Stripped of the rules and formality of the traditional pit fight, these are spontaneous events triggered by insults, turf invasions or the simple taunt, "My dog can kill yours." Many of these participants lack even a semblance of respect for the animals, forcing them to train wearing heavy chains to build stamina and picking street fights in which they could get seriously hurt. And many of the dogs are bred to be a threat not only to other dogs, but to people as well?with tragic consequences. Professional fighters and dedicated hobbyists decry the techniques and results of these newcomers to the "sport.""
I view dog fighting as about the same as bull fighting or cock fighting. I don't care for the "sports" but I'm not going to get worked up about them. For the most part, it's probably a better life for the animals than them getting raised to be eaten, which I don't care about either.
jlbenedict
Banned
I see in your profile you are from Mexico. Here in the United States we raise and breed dogs as pets and companions. We don't eat them here. We eat cows and chickens.
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So, no, the dogs that are being used in this illegal sport do not have a better life. Usually the "loser" gets killed and discarded since it was a disgrace to its owner.
fisheerman
Senior member
shut it down, its over, finished, caput......................
jlbenedict
Banned
Some of these NFL thugs think they are just above the law.
"Portis, a native of Laurel, Mississippi, added: "I know a lot of back roads that got a dog fight if you want to go see it. But they're not bothering those people because those people are not big names. I'm sure there's some police got some dogs that are fighting them, some judges got dogs and everything else."
"Politicians," added Samuels, who found it hard to keep from giggling while Portis was talking.
"Presidents," added Portis with a laugh.
Dog fighting is a felony in Virginia, but Portis said that if Vick is charged and convicted, "Then I think he got cheated. ... You're putting him behind bars for no reason -- over a dog fight."
"Haven't you seen Animal Planet?" Samuels added with a giggle.
Aaah.. but later Monday the backpedal begins:
"Hours after making light of the possible crime in the television interview, Portis issued a statement late Monday through the Redskins.
"In the recent interview I gave concerning dog fighting, I want to make it clear I do not take part in dog fighting or condone dog fighting in any manner," the statement said."
"Portis, a native of Laurel, Mississippi, added: "I know a lot of back roads that got a dog fight if you want to go see it. But they're not bothering those people because those people are not big names. I'm sure there's some police got some dogs that are fighting them, some judges got dogs and everything else."
"Politicians," added Samuels, who found it hard to keep from giggling while Portis was talking.
"Presidents," added Portis with a laugh.
Dog fighting is a felony in Virginia, but Portis said that if Vick is charged and convicted, "Then I think he got cheated. ... You're putting him behind bars for no reason -- over a dog fight."
"Haven't you seen Animal Planet?" Samuels added with a giggle.
Aaah.. but later Monday the backpedal begins:
"Hours after making light of the possible crime in the television interview, Portis issued a statement late Monday through the Redskins.
"In the recent interview I gave concerning dog fighting, I want to make it clear I do not take part in dog fighting or condone dog fighting in any manner," the statement said."
fisheerman
Senior member
bucwylde23
Diamond Member
Yeah he definitely didn't write the public statement himself...
He obviously DOES condone it according to his interview.
jlbenedict
Banned
Great article.
""It can't be too bad of a crime. There's a lot of stuff that's crimes, you know. It's killers on the loose over here and you want to hunt down Michael Vick over fighting some dogs.".
"After suggesting that he suspected cops and judges were staging dogfights too, Portis was asked what he would think if Vick is charged and convicted.
Still unclear on the illegal nature of the activity, Portis asks, "How could you convict somebody on a dog fight?"
Okay, knucklehead, hypothetically, what if Vick were convicted?
"Then I think he got cheated. You take a positive role model...and put him behind bars for no reason, over a dog fight."
Our neighbor's dog was stolen by dog fighters because it was a gentle lab & would make a good practice dog for their fighting dogs to maul. It was found a few days later clinging to life. I have no sympathy for dog abusers. As far as Im concerned a bullet to the head of any dog abuser would be fine by me.
