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poor military guy is going to get owned tomorrow in class

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dolph

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we were talking about courts martial yesterday in class, and he was adamant that the death penalty is not allowed. having just heard a case on npr where someone was given the death penalty for desertion in ww2, i tried to counter him. his response was "look, i was in the (army, i think), you absolutely cannot get the death penalty in a court martial, period." the prof told both of us to google it and bring the results to class tomorrow. well, turns out he was wrong. i just hope the prof doesn't remember to ask us, or at least doesn't make us say what we found in front of the class. i have a lot of respect for the guy for being in the military and going to college after, and i don't like embarrassing people in public if they haven't done anything to deserve it
 
talk to him before class. you sound like a great guy for even saying something like this, so i think if you explain the situation with the guy and teacher you could work it out. or, find some more info and make it seem like he is partially right.

if you make it seem like he was right under certain circumstances, then it wouldnt be nearly as embarassing. good luck.
 
If he had to throw the "i'm in the army so I should know" sort of thing in there, he deserves it if he was wrong
 
yeah, definitely if he blew the "well I was in the army, so therefore I am an authoritative source of information for all things military and I can never be wrong" BS in your face, definitely stick it to him for being an a$shat.
 
I'd like to kow exactly where/what you found where it states that the death penalty is still an "active" form of sentencing?
 
Explain about the different types of courts martial and how you can only get the death penalty in one of them.
 
Actually, half of the six military members on death row at Leavenworth are Army. In all fairness to your classmate, no military offender has actually been executed since 1961.
 
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
talk to him before class. you sound like a great guy for even saying something like this, so i think if you explain the situation with the guy and teacher you could work it out. or, find some more info and make it seem like he is partially right.

if you make it seem like he was right under certain circumstances, then it wouldnt be nearly as embarassing. good luck.
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Agreed. Props for being so considerate :beer:
 
I would say that the death penalty for court martial isnt given that often... the court martial, dishonorable discharge that usually comes with it, and humiliation on yourself / family along with time that you have to serve / already have served should be plenty for a court martial

"Date of last military execution
On April 13, 1961, U.S. Army Private John A. Bennett was hanged after being convicted of rape and attempted murder. (R. Serrano, "Last Soldier to Die at Levenworth Hanged in an April Storm," Los Angeles Times, 7/12/94)"

Link to source

After a VERY SHORT seach (1 website) I found this..... it appears that the last death penalty was given in 1961 which was probably before this guy (and me for that matter) were a twinkle in our daddies eye


ALSO:
you said "poor guy" when you would be the one owning him so his owning decides on how bad you want to shove in his face that he was wrong.... seeing as he volunteered to serve his country he is doing more than most people are doing and more than I am willing to do at this point in my life (but would for a cause i saw was just or if the draft was re-instituted)
 
Originally posted by: harsh
I'd like to kow exactly where/what you found where it states that the death penalty is still an "active" form of sentencing?
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Here is the current version of our Manual for Courts-Martial, which contains the military's laws on criminal law and criminal procedure. OTOH, the offenses that allow for the death penalty are rape, murder, aiding the enemy, espionage, and spying (for which the death penalty is mandatory).
 
Originally posted by: harsh
I'd like to kow exactly where/what you found where it states that the death penalty is still an "active" form of sentencing?
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the maximum penalty for desertion during a time of war is death, that is fact
 
Originally posted by: whiteboy81
Don't worry I'm not coming to class tomorrow :*(

Oh, and the jerkstore called, they're runnin out of YOU!!!
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What's the difference? You're their best seller!
 
Originally posted by: Indolent
If he had to throw the "i'm in the army so I should know" sort of thing in there, he deserves it if he was wrong
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im a human therefore, i am prepared to operate on other humans.
 
That guy is a dumbass, if he was in the military he full well knows that the death penetalty is still handed down. he deserves to be owned in class.
 
Originally posted by: Don_Vito
Originally posted by: harsh
I'd like to kow exactly where/what you found where it states that the death penalty is still an "active" form of sentencing?
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Here is the current version of our Manual for Courts-Martial, which contains the military's laws on criminal law and criminal procedure. OTOH, the offenses that allow for the death penalty are rape, murder, aiding the enemy, espionage, and spying (for which the death penalty is mandatory).
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Thanks, I will have to read some of it tomorrow while I am at work.

dolpf why does the military guy have to be poor, because he was wrong. Your topic title and part of your post counteract each other. I'll explain...
Topic Title: military guy is going to get OWNED
Post: I just hope the prof doesn't remember to ask us, or at least doesn't make us say what we found in front of the class.

I don't think your follow on statement is honest (I have a lot of respect for the guy for being in the military and going to college after, and i don't like embarrassing people in public if they haven't done anything to deserve it). I think you do want the professor to ask so that you can show him up and throw it in his face. As a matter of fact you were gloating when you decided to make this thread.

I guess it wasn't hard to figure out that I am in the military, albeit not the Army, but I do have respect for those men and women that CHOSE to go into that particular branch and I will fight for them. I don't want this to get into some sort of flame war, but I just get worked up when ever someone not in the military starts in on those that are/were.
 
Originally posted by: Citrix
That guy is a dumbass, if he was in the military he full well knows that the death penetalty is still handed down. he deserves to be owned in class.
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Obviousley from my post above I am in the military and I did not know that the death penalty was still handed down. Just for the record I am no noob either, July 3rd will mark my 14th year.
 
Originally posted by: cash1220
Originally posted by: harsh
I'd like to kow exactly where/what you found where it states that the death penalty is still an "active" form of sentencing?
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the maximum penalty for desertion during a time of war is death, that is fact
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oh yeah? I see your death, and raise you a DOUBLE-DEATH!!
 
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