Poor Carter Page. Such a victim.

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This raging douche actually included the below in a 15 page letter to Dianne Feinstein.

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I don't doubt that he's been harassed. If it's illegal or invasive outside the bounds of reasonable investigation, I don't think he should be OK with it, either, despite any culpability he has. But invoking sexual harassment victims in comparison is incredibly insensitive, idiotic, and unnecessary. It certainly undermines our opportunity to have compassion for him.
 

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He brings most of it on himself, he goes on tv says something stupid, and gets grilled/ investigated over it. Sad!
 
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Odds that this is basically the same type of conversation that he has nearly daily, with Chief Orangman, and he's essentially repeating an argument that Trump often makes?
 

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This raging douche actually included the below in a 15 page letter to Dianne Feinstein.

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Yea, he's always playing the I have First Amendment rights, why are you harassing me bullshit. Thing is, I don't think it would be productive to even try to get that squirrel in a plea deal. He's a flake.
 
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There's no way Page wrote something that stupid. Stephen Miller probably ghost wrote that letter with him.
 

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I don't doubt that he's been harassed. If it's illegal or invasive outside the bounds of reasonable investigation, I don't think he should be OK with it, either, despite any culpability he has. But invoking sexual harassment victims in comparison is incredibly insensitive, idiotic, and unnecessary. It certainly undermines our opportunity to have compassion for him.

It's all duh-version all the time from the Trump camp & their devotees. So persecuted!

It's like everybody is crooked except for them...
 

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It's all duh-version all the time from the Trump camp & their devotees. So persecuted!

It's like everybody is crooked except for them...

Trump and company have been persecuted unfairly. But they're still very crooked.
 

Jhhnn

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Trump and company have been persecuted unfairly. But they're still very crooked.

What rational president wouldn't expect trouble from the media after declaring the media to be the enemy of the people?

Trump threw down the gauntlet with that remark. That kind of an attack on the Fourth Estate is an attack on Democracy itself & something they simply cannot tolerate. Nor should any of us.
 

Younigue

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What rational president wouldn't expect trouble from the media after declaring the media to be the enemy of the people?

Trump threw down the gauntlet with that remark. That kind of an attack on the Fourth Estate is an attack on Democracy itself & something they simply cannot tolerate. Nor should any of us.
Tell It Jhhnn!!!
 

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What rational president wouldn't expect trouble from the media after declaring the media to be the enemy of the people?

Trump threw down the gauntlet with that remark. That kind of an attack on the Fourth Estate is an attack on Democracy itself & something they simply cannot tolerate. Nor should any of us.

I'm not saying he shouldn't have reasonably anticipated the response he has received. Trump is pathologically unable to deal with it to our detriment. All I'm saying is that in leveling exaggerated attack we reinforce his victim mentality which isn't doing anyone any good.
 

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I'm not saying he shouldn't have reasonably anticipated the response he has received. Trump is pathologically unable to deal with it to our detriment. All I'm saying is that in leveling exaggerated attack we reinforce his victim mentality which isn't doing anyone any good.
The whole objective of having a victim mentality is to create circumstances that one can construe to be being victimized. In order for that not to happen would require a population of enlightened people. A few may be able to do it but most will not so any practical way to deal with Trump, it would seem to me perhaps, will have to account for that fact. In that case I can't see an alternative to wishing he becomes a victim bigly, bigly enough to bring him crashing to the ground. I don't see him curing himself in the presence of deeply understanding people. Personally, I don't see room for much development along the lines of increased victim mentality. I think he's pretty much holding a royal flush. I think the threat of his continuance as president needs to become greater than the threat he poses in office. I think people should begin to shut the country down until he leaves. There should be massive prayer vigils where people openly beg him to quit. There were generations back when people would not have tolerated his shit.