Polls show nationalist candidate in France ahead of Sarkozy in polls.

[Anarchist420]

http://www.ejpress.org/article/49503

This is why democracy is no good, fellas.

How the hell is a nationalist doing so well in France? It really boggles my mind.

 

[Lemon law]

http://www.ejpress.org/article/49503

This is why democracy is no good, fellas.

How the hell is a nationalist doing so well in France? It really boggles my mind.

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If you look at the current poll, 23% nationalists vs. 21% for Sarkozy, over a year before the election, its very hard to imagine the nationalist Le Pen will end up on top. Together, it represents only 44% of the current French electorate, and also implies 77% of the French electorate feel no affinity with Le Pen.

As for Sarkozy, it points out the larger French electorate composed of conservatives, moderates, and liberals are not all united behind just Sarkozy. And when it comes to election crunch time on 5/2012, and it comes down to a vote of Nationist v more mainstream politician, I predict the Nationalist Le Pen will get crushed.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Maybe Sarkozy did not deport enough illegal Gypsies to satisfy his constituency?

How the hell is a nationalist doing so well in France? It really boggles my mind.

Modern nationalism, originally a left-wing ideology, originated in France.

 

[fskimospy]

I guess Sarkozy did not deport enough illegal Gypsies to satisfy the French Right?


Modern nationalism, originally a left-wing ideology, originated in France.

Right, but that leaves out important context. It was as an alternative to being subservient to kings and emperors. Nationalism is in many ways a blight on humanity, but I absolutely find it an advance that you are dying for each other as opposed to some jackass with a crown.

 

[Lemon law]

Where does this thread assumption come from, that just because some set of right wing bigots named their party the nationalist party, that they then automatically represent anything remotely resembling anyone's historical ideal of true French Nationalism?

 

[ShawnD1]

Nationalist meaning what? That he puts the needs of the French before the needs of everyone else? Most would say that's a good thing.

/buys chinese products and laughs at now-unemployed factory workers

 

[DesiPower]

Maybe Sarkozy did not deport enough illegal Gypsies to satisfy his constituency?


Modern nationalism, originally a left-wing ideology, originated in France.

 

[Lemon law]

Nationalist meaning what? That he puts the needs of the French before the needs of everyone else? Most would say that's a good thing.

/buys chinese products and laughs at now-unemployed factory workers

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------In 1789 the cry was Liberty equality and fraternity, why should French Nationalism be opposed to equal rights for its minorities now. France has been stuck on stupid for a 100 years now, as the last days French Colonialism glory died dead at least 50 years ago, and will never come back. Who in France believes the way to revive dead Colonialism lies in dividing France into partisan camp ethnic groups.

That is not French nationalism, its national stupidity. Putting France at war with itself. We have seen the enemy and its us applies everywhere on earth.

 

[Fern]

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How the hell is a nationalist doing so well in France? It really boggles my mind.

I lived in France when her father was 'that' candidate.

IIRC, there times when he polled pretty well, people would freak. But he never got any where. In France, polling != voting.

I.e., don't pay much attention to these polls now, it's far too early. The French might just be using the polls to send a message about their dissatisfaction.

Fern

 

[lothar]

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If you look at the current poll, 23% nationalists vs. 21% for Sarkozy, over a year before the election, its very hard to imagine the nationalist Le Pen will end up on top. Together, it represents only 44% of the current French electorate, and also implies 77% of the French electorate feel no affinity with Le Pen.

As for Sarkozy, it points out the larger French electorate composed of conservatives, moderates, and liberals are not all united behind just Sarkozy. And when it comes to election crunch time on 5/2012, and it comes down to a vote of Nationist v more mainstream politician, I predict the Nationalist Le Pen will get crushed.

Only the top 2 candidates advance to the general elections for a run off in France.

They don't need to come in on top...They only need to win 2nd place.

 

[Infohawk]

This only says who the two run-off candidates would be. The rest of the population would go behind the mainstream candidate as they did the last time a nationalist reached the run-off. You have to remember France has a proportional system. If the US had it too, it's highly likely at least 20% of the population would also vote for an extreme party.

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

http://www.ejpress.org/article/49503

This is why democracy is no good, fellas.

How the hell is a nationalist doing so well in France? It really boggles my mind.

Because the country is being overrun by foreigners who won't assimilate and are turning the places they live into shitholes.

That's like asking why Americans are against illegal immigration.

 

[nyker96]

http://www.ejpress.org/article/49503

This is why democracy is no good, fellas.

How the hell is a nationalist doing so well in France? It really boggles my mind.

can we take over France too?

 

[Monster_Munch]

Nationalist parties always do well when the economy is bad, the Nazis in Germany rose to power during the great depression in the 30s.

 

[Anarchist420]

The reason the economy is bad is because of fractional reserve banking and fiat currency.

 

[epidemis]

This thread is good for showing american ignorance. Talking as if they had any inkling of experience with French affairs.