Hayabusa Rider
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I probably will as well. I usually vote Republican but if the party can't put together even a half-way decent candidate then screw 'em. I thought they would've learned after the McCain/Palin fiasco (which drove me and other moderates to vote Obama) but apparently not.
airdata
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I know you say that in a sarcastic way...
You'd have to be stupid to not see the clear media bias against Ron Paul. What other candidates have news anchors and personalities openly talking shit about them year round? or playing down their successes?
Nobody else gets omitted from coverage like Ron Paul. Look at the news coverage earlier in 2011. A Michelle Bachman straw pull win was headline news... LOL... and then Ron Paul wins most of the others and it's not news worthy and not talked about.
And then there's the polls. On many occasions news networks have altered or removed polls in which Ron Paul places favorably.
They call him out during debates and show clear bias when asking him questions, and play dumb when he gives a straight up answer in an attempt to sway the dumb viewers that are watching.
I can agree that Ron Paul is probably too old to be president. But that's about it. He beats all of the other candidates hands down in every other category.
If media coverage were not biased, he would probably be winning every state. But since voters have been coaxed into thinking that he's crazy for stating facts and telling it like it is, he's stuck in a #3-4 spot.
I'd like to see any of the other candidates get treated like Ron Paul in the media and get close to as many votes.
WhipperSnapper
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We need a good nickname for Santorum because a great many people don't know about the new meaning of the word. Maybe we should start calling him "Butt Cheese".
If Butt Cheese becomes the nominee, I will laugh my ass off.
If Butt Cheese becomes the nominee, I will laugh my ass off.
airdata
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Yeah, look at the campaign donations and you can see who the big corporations want in office.
Ron Paul's supporters tend to be young, like military members.
More importantly though, who gives a shit who members of the military give money to?
airdata
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Probably people who pretend they support the military, but at the same time support unwarranted actions that get them killed, maimed, and scarred for life every day.
thraashman
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airdata
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We'll see. Look at how long it took them to say Santorum won Iowa, despite still having missing votes that very well could have Ron Paul winning there.
OH.. lets move vote counting to a secret location and then botch the vote count after the fact so that nobody knows who won ! Great idea ~!!!
You haven't read the other news posts about how several places are still missing, etc, have you?
Though, in truth Ron Paul might still be in 2nd when the dust clears.
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Santorum doesn't need the big Corporation money
2-15-2012
http://news.yahoo.com/rick-santorum-benefactor-says-help-needed-110118491--abc-news.html
Rick Santorum Benefactor Says If Help Is Needed He Will Be There
With his candidate of choice riding high in the polls, Rick Santorum's wealthy benefactor Foster Friess laughed off the suggestion that he's buying the election for the former Pennsylvania senator, but Friess, the main donor to the pro-Santorum super PAC told ABC News he is absolutely committed to helping Santorum through Super Tuesday and all the way through the Republican National Convention in August.
He added there is another high-dollar donor to the super PAC who recently gave a million dollars to the effort.
Friess made his money as a mutual fund manager, but stressed he's not a billionaire, merely a very successful millionaire. He's not only the super PAC's main donor, he's been friends with Santorum for 20 years, giving to his previous campaigns, including his 18 point loss to Bob Casey in 2006.
He's often by Santorum's side on the campaign trail with his signature grin and cowboy hat. He proudly stood behind Santorum when the former Pennsylvania senator scored his trifecta victories last week.
You're just wrong. You're either not paying attention or your attention to details is selective because you operate from a presumption of media bias and what you notice and don't notice is colored by that presumption. RP gets somewhat less coverage than the front running candidates, of both a positive and negative nature. He's suffered far, far less from negative media attention than the other GOP candidates. Just look at candidates like Cain or even Bachmann. RP's issues with the newsletter and other possible connections to racists has been treated minimally by the MSM. They would sink Romney or Obama if something of a similar nature came out, even IF the allegations were largely untrue and/or exaggerated. If the media possessed the anti-RP bias that you claim it has, they'd be running this dirt up the flagpole on a regular basis, but they're not.
There is a kind of chicken and egg problem here, where you can argue that RP isn't viable because the media doesn't cover him enough, while I'm arguing that the media doesn't cover him enough because he isn't viable. What breaks the deadlock here is that the media remembers his poor showing in 2008, and that is what set them to low expectations and minimal coverage this time around. There's also the problem of Santorum, who got very little coverage, less than RP at the early stages, because he polled lower than RP. Yet somehow in spite of many months of low coverage he ends up rising up to at or near the top of the polls, and now he gets more press. RP could theoretically do the same - rise up in spite of relatively low media coverage and then he'll get more coverage, both good and bad. But he hasn't, and the Santorum phenomenon demonstrates that the degree of media coverage isn't the main issue.
There is also the important detail that GOP voters tend to ignore the MSM because they are convinced, almost to a man, that it has a liberal bias. And they are the ones voting in this primary.
The fact is, too many GOP voters don't like RP's stances on things like legalizing drugs and prostitution, and most importantly, his foreign policy stances. While those stances have become somewhat more acceptable to GOP voters this time around, it isn't enough to overcome longstanding ideological positions among republicans in this country. Whatever you speculate his chances to be in a general election, RP is not electable in a GOP primary, period.
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What the military wants politically is, and should remain, irrelevant. The median age of someone in the military is in the early 20's or so I'd imagine, most of them without a college degree. Why on earth would you base your political judgments on a group with those demographics?
yllus
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The troops voted for Bush over Kerry by a 4-to-1 ratio. They also voted for John "Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran" McCain over Obama by a 2-to-1 ratio. If you were feeling uncharitable, you could say the military got the action that they voted for.
airdata
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It's just a stat. I like how people get really defensive over it though. Other candidates would love the bragging rights of being able to say that military members back them.
Another fact is that Ron Paul has more individual donations than other people. What that means is that corporations support guys like Romney, Gingrich and actual people support Ron Paul.
That's what it really boils down to. Alot of you hating on Ron Paul are waiting on somebody to tell you who you can vote for after a sideshow of primaries in which they botch the results over and over.
This shit flew better before the internet...> But screwing with an election today is just a mess. Think of all of the Iowas in the past where people didn't have the luxury of knowing who actually won. They just had to take the media at their word.
airdata
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXZt_nrQsvg&feature=player_embedded&noredirect=1#!
Voter fraud in Maine?
Voter fraud in Maine?
I don't see the Repubs having any hope in this election. They aren't enthusiastic about any of their candidates (cant blame them). It is obvious the establishment is pushing Romney as hard as they can because he is the only one with any hope of a broad appeal to moderates, but the voters refuse to get in line.
I got news for you Republicans, a platform based on social issues isn't going to cut it anymore. It's time to stop measuring a candidate based on stupid $hit like abortion and what they think about gays, because it doesn't matter anymore. You are not, nor have you ever been able to roll back progressive social policies, so give it up. Playing that card to whip your base into a frenzy only pushes the younger generation away. Get back to your roots as fiscal conservatives, and try not so make it so obvious that you are beholden to the rich.
I got news for you Republicans, a platform based on social issues isn't going to cut it anymore. It's time to stop measuring a candidate based on stupid $hit like abortion and what they think about gays, because it doesn't matter anymore. You are not, nor have you ever been able to roll back progressive social policies, so give it up. Playing that card to whip your base into a frenzy only pushes the younger generation away. Get back to your roots as fiscal conservatives, and try not so make it so obvious that you are beholden to the rich.
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