POLL: YAGT: Stuck between a rock and a hard spot... *UPDATE2: This rocks*

zippy

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UPDATE2: Ahhh, life is good. We went out twice last weekend. Things went great - we can and do talk endlessly. Also, we've become very obvious with each other that we are interested in one another as more than friends. I'm thinking I might bring that up this weekend. Heh - speaking of this weekend, I should talk to her tomorrow and figure out exactly what we are doing. Oh yes, and she asked about 'Jane' - that she's been meaning to ask if 'Jane' and I were anything. I think I handled it well, I said something like:

No, we're not - i don't know where people got that idea. Well, I do, because we are seen in the halls a few times a day, but we're just friends.

And she said, 'good, I just wanted to be sure. I don't like the whole backstabbing thing - I've been on both ends and it's not fun.'

'Jane' and I have kinda simmered our friendship a bit, which is fine by me, it was getting to be a bit much...it kinda weirded me out when she would practically stalk me between classes...

Anyway, 'the other girl' rocks - couldn't be happier and 'Jane' and I are still friends - oh, and she hasn't mentioned anything about it - I don't think she will at this point.

UPDATE: Going out with the other girl this weekend. I'm pretty excited. :)

I would ask friends for advice, but I can't even do that without screwing up. Very stick situation...

I became friendly with a girl basically at the beginning of the school year and we've gotten to be good friends - we talk a lot and whatnot. Maybe a month and a half ago ago she basically asked me out (really slyly though...like, "i have GCs for Chilis...we should go...do you want to go tomorrow?...while we're in the area we can go to a movie..." It was ridiculous - I asked a few people if she was asking me out - they agreed) so I talked to her and said I got the impression that she was asking be out and I just wanted to be friends and that I didn't want a relationship. Fine, no big deal, she said that was cool and didn't mean to ask me out like that. Whatever, we moved on, still friends. So I get season tickets for SU College BBall every year with a friend of mine - he invites a girl and so do I - but in a completely innocent, platonic fashion - nothing more than friends. So this girl, we'll call her 'Jane' (as in Miss Doe) is able to go. BTW, I don't pay for her tickets - she does of course.

Fast forward to about a month later. We're still good friends and whatnot. I was invited to go to dinner with some people that I didn't really know too well - I only knew the kid that organized it well and I was the first person he asked. About an hour before we all go I ask who else is going...I didn't know them/couldn't stand them. I decided to invite 'Jane' to go since I was talking to her on AIM at the time and she wasn't busy. We went to dinner with everyone and hung out for awhile - no big deal.

Flash forward to now - another 2 weeks later. Still good friends, no big deal. But now I think I like another girl...but I feel terrible because I think she likes me as more than a friend! :Q I talked to two of my friends that I know are pretty close with her and they very subtly implied that she likes me as more than a friend - AHHHH! Worst part is, the girl I want to ask out on a date is friends with 'Jane.' Gahhh! I told one of my friends that I would like to get to know this other girl well but I know he won't tell anyone. However, I don't want to push it and ask him for her screen name or phone number. Nor can I ask anyone else that would know because I don't want this to get out. That said, I have only talked to this other girl a few times...I'm hoping tomorrow I'll have a chance to talk to her one on one and ask her out...but it's rare that I see her. Gah!

Here's my conundrum...what do I do:

a) Talk to 'Jane' about what's up and ask out the other girl
b) Not talk to 'Jane' and ask out the other girl and if 'Jane' asks be like, "I thought we were just friends" <- seems like the asshole move
c) Other - post your ideas

I feel really bad because my friend told me I basically lead her on - that I didn't know it (which I really didn't) but that I was in her eyes. He said that to a guy it doesn't seem like it, but she thinks I like her. Oh yeah, 'Jane' talks to me all the friggin time and like finds me in the halls - mildly annoying - I can't escape her.

AHHH! The other girl seems so cool and hot...not to say 'Jane' isn't - but that would be like asking out one of my guy friends...that's the kind of friend i see her as - no more than a friend (yet female).

Help a brotha' out.

Thanks.
 

Lithium381

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don't do #2....that does seem like an a-hole move........be upfront with her, she's your friend, she'll understand....i know that may seem easy for me to sit here and say as i'm not in that situation right now(hehe, well almost) but from the outside it seems that it's the logical thing to do. good luck man!

-lithium
 

zippy

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Originally posted by: Lithium381
don't do #2....that does seem like an a-hole move........be upfront with her, she's your friend, she'll understand....i know that may seem easy for me to sit here and say as i'm not in that situation right now(hehe, well almost) but from the outside it seems that it's the logical thing to do. good luck man!

-lithium
To be honest, I'm not really even considering #2. But I just need input on how to approach this well.

I really need advice on how to talk to 'Jane' or how not to talk to 'Jane' and how to friggin get the other girl's # or screen name...gah!

I feel terrible. I'm a 'nice guy' - thus I usually don't have this problem since high school girls (I'm a senior) are typically idiots and like the guys that are jackasses to them.

But the other girl...oh man.
 

gopunk

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you know if jane was hot, you'd be all over her like ugly on a monkey...

i vote you just go for the girl you want. life is too short to worry about people who can't see you're not interested... besides, she'll get over it eventually.
 

xospec1alk

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just be like hey jane whats up? whats ur friends # blah blah...she'll understand you've made it pretty clear that you just wanna be friends...
 

AreaCode707

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There doesn't seem to be too much indication, given what you've shared, that Jane is hyper-enamoured with you. I think you're safe just asking the other girl out - you've done nothing to commit yourself to Jane, just hung out as friends, given her no indication to think there's anything more; exactly the opposite in fact. I would say your conscience is clear.

If you've given her signs that encourage her to think that you may be interested in her, yeah, it'd be a good thing to mention to her that you're interested in this other girl. You don't need to make this a big trauma thing though, since I don't think she's quite as into this as you seem to imagine.
 

zippy

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Originally posted by: gopunk
you know if jane was hot, you'd be all over her like ugly on a monkey...

i vote you just go for the girl you want. life is too short to worry about people who can't see you're not interested... besides, she'll get over it eventually.
It isn't that 'Jane' isn't hot...well, she isn't...she's very cute, but not 'hot.' The other girl is admittedly better looking, but it's truly that I consider 'Jane' a friend just like any other friend.

Anyway, I agree - I really wanted to ask out the other girl for friday or saturday night; that may be difficult now - we'll see.

How do I deal with this though? Ahhh.

Thanks guys.
 

Kev

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you already established with jane that you are just friends. this should be a non-issue.
 

gopunk

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It isn't that 'Jane' isn't hot...well, she isn't...she's very cute, but not 'hot.' The other girl is admittedly better looking, but it's truly that I consider 'Jane' a friend just like any other friend.

no, that's the "nice guy" answer :p the real answer is that she's not hot... i guarantee that if jane suddenly turned into a perfect 10, all of the sudden, like MAGIC *oh my god i can't believe!*, you would start to consider jane as potentially more than a friend :p

Anyway, I agree - I really wanted to ask out the other girl for friday or saturday night; that may be difficult now - we'll see.

How do I deal with this though? Ahhh.

Thanks guys.

what everybody else said.... you made no commitments to jane, if she is delusional, that's her own fault. i'm not saying treat her like crap... but i don't think you owe any sort of explanation to her since you've made it pretty clear you just want to be friends.
 

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if you tell Jane about girl #2 then you run the risk of Jane torpedoing your efforts by telling girl #2 you're off limits.
 

zippy

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Originally posted by: gotsmack
if you tell Jane about girl #2 then you run the risk of Jane torpedoing your efforts by telling girl #2 you're off limits.
You have a very valid point.

Crap.

I was thinking more along the lines of just reminding her that I just consider us friends and whatnot and that I was getting worried that I was leading her on. Then ask out the other girl later that day. Would that be good/gentlemanly/well thought out?

Thanks.
 

lilFajita

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I kind of feel like talking to Jane before hand is not neccessary. Assuming that you are giving us all the information (i.e. that you don't have a "friends with benefits" thing with Jane) then it seems to me that you have already told her that you guys are just friends. To bring it up might just rub salt in the wound, you know? If you want to prepare her in some way, then maybe you can mention it casually in an IM conversation or something. But I think making it into a serious convo would be too much.
 

zippy

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Originally posted by: LilFajita
I kind of feel like talking to Jane before hand is not neccessary. Assuming that you are giving us all the information (i.e. that you don't have a "friends with benefits" thing with Jane) then it seems to me that you have already told her that you guys are just friends. To bring it up might just rub salt in the wound, you know? If you want to prepare her in some way, then maybe you can mention it casually in an IM conversation or something. But I think making it into a serious convo would be too much.
Nope, no benefits. Heh.

Yeah, here's another idea: ask out the other girl, assuming she is free, go out, then when 'Jane' asks what I did that night be like, "Oh, I went out with <the other girl - now to be known as 'Karen' (not her actual name)> tonight." Then I'll see what happens...if 'Jane' flips a sh!t, I'll be like, "I thought we were just friends?" If she is like, "Whaaa!?" I'll say, "Yeah, we talked about that awhile ago..."

Grr...what a pain.
 

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Originally posted by: zippy
Originally posted by: gotsmack
if you tell Jane about girl #2 then you run the risk of Jane torpedoing your efforts by telling girl #2 you're off limits.
You have a very valid point.

Crap.

I was thinking more along the lines of just reminding her that I just consider us friends and whatnot and that I was getting worried that I was leading her on. Then ask out 'Jane' later that day. Would that be good/gentlemanly/well thought out?

Thanks.

I believe you meant to say that you would ask out the *other* girl, not "Jane," later that day :)
 

zippy

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Originally posted by: Schlocemus
Originally posted by: zippy
Originally posted by: gotsmack
if you tell Jane about girl #2 then you run the risk of Jane torpedoing your efforts by telling girl #2 you're off limits.
You have a very valid point.

Crap.

I was thinking more along the lines of just reminding her that I just consider us friends and whatnot and that I was getting worried that I was leading her on. Then ask out 'Jane' later that day. Would that be good/gentlemanly/well thought out?

Thanks.

I believe you meant to say that you would ask out the *other* girl, not "Jane," later that day :)
Good lord! Thanks, editted! That was NOT, I repeat NOT a freudian slip!
 

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just tone down your friendship with Jane, while subtely letting her know that you're not together. She'll sort of get the point, and it won't get you into a sticky situation or discussion. That's what I've done a few times, because I'm really bad at the talking out thing (although I've talked it out before)
 

zippy

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Originally posted by: NewSc2
just tone down your friendship with Jane, while subtely letting her know that you're not together. She'll sort of get the point, and it won't get you into a sticky situation or discussion. That's what I've done a few times, because I'm really bad at the talking out thing (although I've talked it out before)
That's difficult to do since I can't get away from her in school - I hardly see her out of school anyway. Plus, we are good friends - I'm sure if I started going out with with the other girl, our friendship would slow a bit (being a realist), but she is a friend of mine and I don't want to screw that up.

Yes folks, it is possible to have true friendships with girls...but it is NOT easy. :eek:
 

zippy

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Just talked to a friend:
Me: if i were to go for <the other girl> at some point would i have to tell ?Jane? even though i told ?Jane? over a month ago that i wasn't interested in anything more than a friendship?
Friend: i'm thinking no
Friend: maybe yes
Me: could you explain?
Me: i'm really struggling with this
Friend: i have no idea
Friend: dude
Friend: no
Friend: thast kinda weird
Friend: if u told her
Me: that's what i think
Friend: yup
Me: but at the same time, i don't want to lose her friendship if she is like, "What the hell? I liked you" or something
Friend: i gtg sleep man
Friend: dude
Friend: she wont get man
Friend: mad*
Friend: she doesnt like u that much
Friend: beleive me
Friend: gtg peace
Me: good to know - i appreciate it dude
Me: later
Friend signed off at 12:52:12 AM.
It appears that I will have the green light to go for it. Good news indeed. I also got her SN from my friend - I thought I had it since I talked to her once on my Friend's SN but I was off by 1 letter. Plan is to talk to her over the next week and invite her out next weekend. Can't wait to get to know her...that sounds so weird. :)

Thanks all.
 

zippy

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Well, I'm talking to the 'other girl' now - it's going okay. No big deal.

<shrug>

I got all worked up for nothing I guess. We'll see.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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The fact that you're even considering being sneaky says that you consider her more than just a friend. Don't be a poo.

nik
 

zippy

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
The fact that you're even considering being sneaky says that you consider her more than just a friend. Don't be a poo.

nik
No, I had considered it for a little while when I first realized she liked me but decided that I didn't want that. Trust me on this one.