Poll: Would you like to see Andy Serkis (Gollum) nominated for an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor?

[kami]

Watch the below vids before voting!


AFter watching a few videos I am more and more convinced that Gollum wouldn't be half of what he was if it wasn't for Andy Serkis. I can't even think of another actor off the top of my head that could perform a good Gollum and do the voice.

The animators play a big role, but without his performance they would never get the movements and facial expressions the same way.

Watch the second video on this page (quicktime) then watch this interview from Canada AM here (copy and paste since it's some windows media address stuff):
mms://ctvbroadcast.ctv.ca/video/2003/01/22/ctvvideologger3_45kbps_2003_01_22_1043239731.wmv


Personally I don't see them doing it, they're still too old fashioned. But Gollum's performance would be worthy IMO even if gollum was just a human in makeup...translating to CG is all the more incredible. Maybe Gollum will prompt them to create a new award like Best Digital Performance...


Also some Gollum wallpapers (1280x1024)

 

[ShotgunSteven]

He should be nominated and win. Gollum was amazing. :Q

 

[MrBond]

I've not see TTT yet (I know, I know, but I'm beyond broke-ass-poor), but judging from everything I've heard, he should either be nominated, or given an award for "best motion capture/voice talent"

I kind of think TTT is going to get shafted at the awards this year. The movie is too "lowbrow" for the academy. Some Steaming Pile of Crap (TM) like Adaptation will beat it out.

 

[Czar]

Win now, and then make a new group called the Serkis Award, or Gollum award or something

 

[hdeck]

Originally posted by: MrBond
I've not see TTT yet (I know, I know, but I'm beyond broke-ass-poor), but judging from everything I've heard, he should either be nominated, or given an award for "best motion capture/voice talent"

I kind of think TTT is going to get shafted at the awards this year. The movie is too "lowbrow" for the academy. Some Steaming Pile of Crap (TM) like Adaptation will beat it out.

you are "beyond broke-ass poor" yet you can criticize Adaptation? Have you seen it?

 

[LH]

Peter Jackson will get the shaft because you just know Martin Scorsese, will get best director, just because they feel sorry for never giving him an award.

Chicago or The Hours will take home the major awards.

TTT, will most likely get best special effects, best adapted screenplay. I thought it might get best score, but I bet Chicago gets it now. TTT wont get many awards on the live show, will probably get alot of the technical(not televised) awards though.

 

[kami]

Originally posted by: LH
Peter Jackson will get the shaft because you just know Martin Scorsese, will get best director, just because they feel sorry for never giving him an award.

Chicago or The Hours will take home the major awards.

TTT, will most likely get best special effects, best adapted screenplay. I thought it might get best score, but I bet Chicago gets it now. TTT wont get many awards on the live show, will probably get alot of the technical(not televised) awards though.

So true.

But if ROTK doesn't win (and Peter Jackson as well) I'll never watch that damn awards show again. You can't just let an 8 year project like this go unnoticed. It's cinematic history. Besides, ROTK wil be so emotionally moving that they would give it best picture anyway methinks.

 

[bleeb]

Sean Austin should win the best actor because his encouraging speech about striving forward at the end of TTT really was beautiful acting.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: kami

Originally posted by: LH
Peter Jackson will get the shaft because you just know Martin Scorsese, will get best director, just because they feel sorry for never giving him an award.

Chicago or The Hours will take home the major awards.

TTT, will most likely get best special effects, best adapted screenplay. I thought it might get best score, but I bet Chicago gets it now. TTT wont get many awards on the live show, will probably get alot of the technical(not televised) awards though.

So true.

But if ROTK doesn't win (and Peter Jackson as well) I'll never watch that damn awards show again. You can't just let an 8 year project like this go unnoticed. It's cinematic history. Besides, ROTK wil be so emotionally moving that they would give it best picture anyway methinks.

Just because it took 8 years to make something, doesn't mean it should win Best Picture. It should actually be better than the rest of the movies that year in order to win.

Sean Austin should win the best actor because his encouraging speech about striving forward at the end of TTT really was beautiful acting.

Give me a break. He should win best actor for one speech?

The movie is too "lowbrow" for the academy. Some Steaming Pile of Crap (TM) like Adaptation will beat it out.

Also, Adaptation was an incredibly original film with great acting and an interesting story.

 

[Toasthead]

He is certainly worthy of AT LEAST a nod.

--Toast

 

[Bignate603]

I just watched that movie of Andy Serkis, I had originally though he just did the motion capture. What they did was SO cool...

 

[MrBond]

you are "beyond broke-ass poor" yet you can criticize Adaptation? Have you seen it?

Ok, I haven't seen it. The preview (the theatrical version, not the ones on TV) had me confused beyond belief. So yes, I'm judging a book by it's cover and saying I'd hate it. I thought Being John Malkovich was idiotic as well, which also factors into why I'll never see it.

If these movies are so great, why do they need to dump them onto the market weeks before the oscars? Insomina was frikken great, and it'll be lucky to get nominated.

 

[pulse8]

If these movies are so great, why do they need to dump them onto the market weeks before the oscars?

What are you talking about? What do you mean by dump them onto the market weeks before the Oscars? The Oscars aren't for another two months.

 

[LH]

What he means is, they open with limited release on the last day of oscar eligibility, then go wide once award season starts. The Hours, Adaptation, Chicago. IMHO a movie should have to be in wide release before the last day of oscar eligibility to be able to be nominated, but that will never happen, it would mean the artsy fartsy movies will be lost in the shuffle.

 

[exp]

Unfortunately I don't see any way for Serkis to be nominated, and it's probably too early for Academy members (they're always a bit slow) to create a new category for digital characters. The best option would be to give out a Special Achievement Oscar--as has been done in the past--acknowledging that while Serkis/Gollum may not fit into our current concept of "acting" it is still an accomplishment worthy of recognition.

As far as ROTK goes, Tolkien fans should prepare themselves for disappointment. It seems like everyone is explaining away FOTR & TTT's snubbing by Oscar voters by saying, "Oh, they're just waiting until the last movie to award everything at once." Wishful thinking, guys. The Academy has a long history of ignoring important directors and their films, and the LOTR trilogy is a *perfect* candidate to add to that collection of overlooked classics. Trust me...some crappy, formulaic biopic will come along later this year and steal BP away from ROTK. Jackson may win, though, since I don't see any other directors like Howard & Scorcese up for a "Sorry for Screwing You Over For All of These Years. By Way of Apology Let's Award You for Your Latest Film Even Though It's Nowhere Near Your Best Works That We Previously Ignored" Oscar.

 

[Novgrod]

the members of the motion picture Academy--or at any rate, enough of them to count, are pseudo-intellectuals. this is why nominations go to pseudo-intellectual tripe like American Beauty and the Cider House Rules, and almost-good-acting like Russel Crowe in Gladiator or Julia Roberts (in anything). Some critic--his name escapes me so I'll say it's Rosenbaum, says that he never votes for people playing retards or drunks because that stuff is easy to play. The Academy doesn't know this and real intellectual tripe (PT Anderson, et al) go unnoticed.

or i could be entirely wrong. In fact, I probably am.

 

[jjones]

I didn't realize people still cared about that lame awards show and the even lamer Academy behind it.

 

[SSP]

Originally posted by: Novgrod
the members of the motion picture Academy--or at any rate, enough of them to count, are pseudo-intellectuals. this is why nominations go to pseudo-intellectual tripe like American Beauty and the Cider House Rules, and almost-good-acting like Russel Crowe in Gladiator or Julia Roberts (in anything). Some critic--his name escapes me so I'll say it's Rosenbaum, says that he never votes for people playing retards or drunks because that stuff is easy to play. The Academy doesn't know this and real intellectual tripe (PT Anderson, et al) go unnoticed.

or i could be entirely wrong. In fact, I probably am.

I don't think you missed it by much.

 

[pulse8]

I finally got to watching the first one a couple of weeks ago, and while I enjoyed it some, it was waaaay too long without enough going on.

To me, the film was heavily flawed because they tried to stick too the book too much rather than focusing on making an excellent film.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: SSP

Originally posted by: Novgrod
the members of the motion picture Academy--or at any rate, enough of them to count, are pseudo-intellectuals. this is why nominations go to pseudo-intellectual tripe like American Beauty and the Cider House Rules, and almost-good-acting like Russel Crowe in Gladiator or Julia Roberts (in anything). Some critic--his name escapes me so I'll say it's Rosenbaum, says that he never votes for people playing retards or drunks because that stuff is easy to play. The Academy doesn't know this and real intellectual tripe (PT Anderson, et al) go unnoticed.

or i could be entirely wrong. In fact, I probably am.

I don't think you missed it by much.

I wasn't aware that either one of you knew all the members of the Academy well enough to make such a generalized, elitist comment.

 

[LH]

Haha, I didnt know Billy Bob Thorton & Viggo Mortensen were going to be in "The Alamo" set for release around the same time as KoTR. Heh will be interesting Billy Bob as Davie Crockett and Viggo as Jim Bowie, Dennis Quaid as Sam Houston. Hah I guess since it is being produced by Brian Grazer and Ron Howard it will be in next years Best Picture competition.

Looking at this years release, theres going to be alot of crappy movies and a few good ones.

I would call this the year of the sequels, prequels and remakes, I mean you have

Final Destination 2
Shanghai Knights
Jungle Book 2
Time Cop 2
X Men 2
Mortal Kombat 3
The Matrix ReLoaded
2 Fast 2 Furious
Freddy Vs Jason
Charlies Angels 2
Legally Blonde 2
Terminator 3
When Harry Met Loyd
Exorcist: The Beginning
Bad Boys II
Spy Kids III
Tomb Raider 2
Jeepers Creepers 2
Dirty Dancing 2
The Whole 10 Yards
Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Matrix Revolutions
KoTR

Some of them are good, most are more like WTF are they thinking?

 

[Novgrod]

I wasn't aware that either one of you knew all the members of the Academy well enough to make such a generalized, elitist comment.

it doesn't take much beyond a look at the best pictures over the past howevermany years to realize that there are enough people voting for films that are just "important" enough to be gargled and swallowed by a significant audience, and that the formula for oscar success is to aim high, but not too high. Now far be it for me to tell you that scorsese is a better director than james cameron, or that goodfellas is better than dances with wolves, or (my personal favorite) Rocky is better than taxi driver, but to my eye the voters don't often pick the best film per category, so i don't think the oscars are really important.

There are many people who agree with me, but it doesn't mean i'm right, what with movie taste being subjective and all.

If all the voters are voting for the movies/performances they deem best, then all my criticism is hollow, save that i emphatically disgree with more people than i thought i did.

how can rocky be better than taxi driver?

 

[kami]

Just because it took 8 years to make something, doesn't mean it should win Best Picture. It should actually be better than the rest of the movies that year in order to win.

And it will be. Whether or not it will win is yet to be seen.

But as others have said, some manufactured story about a mentally challenged person, or some "coming of age" story or some portrayal of a fscked up family will win...as always. Academy rarely rewards originality and "character" in a film...so many dramatic films are the same damn thing. When has the academy EVER rewarded a fantasy film properly? And the only way it seems an epic film can win is if it portrays a real life event. How the hell can Gladiator win but not FOTR? Don't get me wrong I love Gladiator but geez

Jackson may win, though, since I don't see any other directors like Howard & Scorcese up for a "Sorry for Screwing You Over For All of These Years. By Way of Apology Let's Award You for Your Latest Film Even Though It's Nowhere Near Your Best Works That We Previously Ignored" Oscar.

So true.....SO TRUE. It disgusts me to think of why they got these awards (I thought Gangs sucked BTW, not even worth a DVD purchase for me). Seeing stuff like this makes me think the academy really is all "politics" and not actually rewarding the most deserving films

I finally got to watching the first one a couple of weeks ago, and while I enjoyed it some, it was waaaay too long without enough going on.

To me, the film was heavily flawed because they tried to stick too the book too much rather than focusing on making an excellent film.

Curious...did you read the book? Because they strayed from the book a lot to transfer it to film. Just the heart/spirity of the story is there, and the themes. The rest is tossed out. ANd when it comes to epic films...a first viewing should always be on the big screen. you should go see Two Towers on the big screen!

 

[kami]

Here's the For Your Consideration ad for Serkis
bad choice of a picture IMO...they should've used one from one of the scenes in that video! still cool though

and since we're on the subject of oscars here's the rest

 

[pulse8]

Curious...did you read the book? Because they strayed from the book a lot to transfer it to film. Just the heart/spirity of the story is there, and the themes. The rest is tossed out. ANd when it comes to epic films...a first viewing should always be on the big screen. you should go see Two Towers on the big screen!

I haven't read the books and I know I'm not an expert on the story. I did watch the first one and judged it as a film and there was a lot of things that could've been done to make the pacing a little better. There were some parts of the movie where I just completely lost interest and found myself just waiting for the next scene.

I did enjoy the movie and I'd very much like to see the second and third films, but for a movie I thought it could've been either written shorter or edited to have better pacing.