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[POLL] - will you buy a hybrid vehicle ?

rh71

No Lifer
I came across the Hybrid Accord commercial. 255hp ?! Whoa. The battery pack is supposed to last 10 years also. Why not ?

For comparison, the Hybrid Accord will get 29/37 mpg and the Hybrid Civic will get 46/51 mpg.
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: rh71
Why not ?

$ x 5000.

- M4H
good reason for why not now... but what about when the technology and methods become proven ... prices may decrease then... would you buy one at the same cost ?
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: rh71
Why not ?

$ x 5000.

- M4H

I don't think it's that simple. It really depends on where you live. Here in California, if you buy a hybrid, yes, you will pay more OTD than an equivalent car without hybrid technology. However, you get tax breaks, you spend less on gasoline, and you are allowed to drive in the carpool lane with a solo driver. All those things (especially the carpool thing here in L.A.) really make a hybrid quite an attractive option.

That being said, my next car (late next year) will in all likelihood NOT be a hybrid. 😛
 
I would really like to get one, but I need to do more reasearch on how those things would work up here in the Wisconsin winters, and with all of the salt.
 
Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: rh71
Why not ?

$ x 5000.

- M4H

I don't think it's that simple. It really depends on where you live. Here in California, if you buy a hybrid, yes, you will pay more OTD than an equivalent car without hybrid technology. However, you get tax breaks, you spend less on gasoline, and you are allowed to drive in the carpool lane with a solo driver. All those things (especially the carpool thing here in L.A.) really make a hybrid quite an attractive option.

That being said, my next car (late next year) will in all likelihood NOT be a hybrid. 😛

Yeah, but you live in the Hippie State. 😛

would you buy one at the same cost ?
Absolutely. At current prices, no way in hell. Add "Whenever it makes financial sense" to the poll, or something like that. 😛

- M4H
 
I would if only it had better mileage. I get ~25mph from my 350Z, and that's supposed to be something of a sports car. The difference between the mileage of my Z and that Hybrid is small, but the difference in driving excitement between my Z and that Hybrid is profound.

I did think about getting a Prius, but why must they look so.... eccentric?
 
Not now. Until they make a fun/performance car, I wouldn't even consider it. Granted the Accord is likely faster than most cars (mine included) in a straight line, I bet it isn't nearly as fun as my car.

Considering the nature of the idea, and the consumers its marketing at, I doubt it'll happen anytime soon. Unless it is suddenly standard equipment require and regulated from the government (think the emissions laws/requirements and all that passed in the early-mid 70s), I doubt we'll see any sports cars based on the Hybrid idea. Again, I doubt regulations aren't happening anytime soon. I just don't see myself, with one vehicle, driving a car just because its cheap on gas.

The $20 I use for gas every 10 or so days isn't a big deal.

Now then, if I had two cars (a weekend/performance car, and a need for a daily driver), it would be a different story. I would probally consider one, depending on the car, but I can't stand the idea of having a boring car to drive to work. I drove my mom's Cavalier (when we still had it) for a couple of days. I hated it.
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: rh71
Why not ?

$ x 5000.

- M4H

I don't think it's that simple. It really depends on where you live. Here in California, if you buy a hybrid, yes, you will pay more OTD than an equivalent car without hybrid technology. However, you get tax breaks, you spend less on gasoline, and you are allowed to drive in the carpool lane with a solo driver. All those things (especially the carpool thing here in L.A.) really make a hybrid quite an attractive option.

That being said, my next car (late next year) will in all likelihood NOT be a hybrid. 😛

Yeah, but you live in the Hippie State. 😛

would you buy one at the same cost ?
Absolutely. At current prices, no way in hell. Add "Whenever it makes financial sense" to the poll, or something like that. 😛

- M4H

LOL hippies and surfers dude, get it right 😉

Actually, I'd like to see something along the lines of the concept Eclipse mitsu had circulating around the car shows last year. Yes, it was ugly, but the idea was great. They used a traditional internal combustion engine paired to four electric motors (one per wheel). The electric motors would engage during launch and during gearshifts to remove shift lag and provide instant torque at minimal RPM for quick launches. Sounded like a great idea (not that I'd get to use it much here in L.A.)
 
Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Actually, I'd like to see something along the lines of the concept Eclipse mitsu had circulating around the car shows last year. Yes, it was ugly, but the idea was great. They used a traditional internal combustion engine paired to four electric motors (one per wheel). The electric motors would engage during launch and during gearshifts to remove shift lag and provide instant torque at minimal RPM for quick launches. Sounded like a great idea (not that I'd get to use it much here in L.A.)

GM put rear-wheel electric motors on a Z71 at one point, IIRC, but that was a purely power increasing measure. I've wondered about the feasability of such a design for hybrids myself.

- M4H
 
Originally posted by: MogulMonster
Not for a while. I would rather go diesel, for now.

i also plan to buy a diesel as my next main commuter car, after that, maybe a hi-bread
 
I would love to buy a hybrid. Unfortuantely, there aren't any in the car type I'm looking for. I need something that will haul 5,000+ pounds up and down 6% grades with ease. My diesel does that without fail. The hybrids don't have the power.
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Actually, I'd like to see something along the lines of the concept Eclipse mitsu had circulating around the car shows last year. Yes, it was ugly, but the idea was great. They used a traditional internal combustion engine paired to four electric motors (one per wheel). The electric motors would engage during launch and during gearshifts to remove shift lag and provide instant torque at minimal RPM for quick launches. Sounded like a great idea (not that I'd get to use it much here in L.A.)

GM put rear-wheel electric motors on a Z71 at one point, IIRC, but that was a purely power increasing measure. I've wondered about the feasability of such a design for hybrids myself.

- M4H

I think it's feasible, but not from a profitability standpoint. It'd be really expensive to build and design, not to mention maintain, and it'd really end up being a performance upgrade rather than an environmentally friendly design (considering you'd still be throwing a I6, V6, V8, etc. etc. in it). Nice idea though.
 
Hey, where's the poll option for already have one!!!!!!!!!

2003 Honda Civic Hybrid. Great car. 1000km per tank. Only need to fill up once a month. Even more important now that temperature is below freezing

As for the price difference between a hybrid to the comparable not hybrid model. Had a $1,000 tax rebate here in Ontario. ABS, alloy wheels, climate control, pollen filter, higher quality interior, less frequent service maintanence schedule (every 10,000km compared to 5,000-6,000km) are among the other standard features. So taking all this into account, there really is only like a $2,000 premium.
 
I've read some articles on hybrids that show little real world gas savings with hybrids. Like less than 10% over a normal civic, when driving in the city, with a/c and a cd playing, while several hundred pounds of heavy metal are used to make the batteries and the rest of the new power train. Don't know the veracity of the articles' claims, though.
 
If it's affordable for me to have one as just a commuter car, and I can still have my "fun" car on the side, then yes
 
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