Poll: Will K10 beat whatever Intel has out at that point in time?

[Hulk]

 

[Keysplayr]

I don't think it's going to work out that way. Just a feeling. Intel just pulled in 45nm to 2H'07. I think that even if AMD pulled off something really good, their lead will not last long at all.
But things do not cease to amaze. We shall see.

 

[Clinth]

The real catch is if AMD can hold out fiscally, they got the better architect, but can they hold off till the new fab comes out, and since they over bought ATI .... but hey I'm buying AMD stock not Intel

So AMD gets my vote and my $$
Clinth

 

[jpeyton]

If AMD closes the gap and keeps their current aggressive pricing structure, that's enough for me.

 

[nerp]

The gap isn't all that great for average users. I've yet to meet a non-enthusiast, overclocker, video editor or renderfarm owner that can tell the difference between a fast AMD chip and a C2D. Sure, benchmarks point out a sizeable difference, but AMD is still the price/performance king.

K8L will be interesting, though. It's starting to get to the point where there are so many cores and such that the speed difference is no longer that important. We're going from a difference of 20mph to 60mph, which is great, to 150mpg to 175mph, which in all honesty, is no longer worth comparing.

That's my theory, at least.

 

[Lonyo]

Supposedly the new AMD chips will have lower frequencies than current ones, while you could be reasonably confident in saying Intel has a fair amount of headroom left, so even if AMD does get a nice boost in performance, they will lose clock speed, and Intel probably has some in reserve they can pull out.

AMD might gain a short lead, but I think Intel will be right back with them at most a couple of months later, if they fall behind at all.

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

full ack nerp.

plus amd lowered the prices and by now their 5000+ vs E6300&E6400 and 5600+ vs E6600+ are pretty competitive. Intel wins hands down though when it comes to overclocking but besides that AMD is not too far out. So we can expect good things coming with K10 and all this *AMD is Dead*-talk is just forum-nerd-bs.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Even if the new AMD chips have lower clockspeeds that doesn't mean that they won't be able to outperform intel's chips. Look what intel did with the C2D, released with lower clockspeeds than the P4 but certainly outperformed the old P4. AMD could do the same.

But who really knows yet? I don't think anyone knows really, it is more just speculation. I for one hope that AMD becomes the top performer again, but I am an AMD fan. However I'm not going to vote on the poll since I don't know which way it'll go.

 

[Kur]

It's K10 not K8L

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: Kur
It's K10 not K8L

Roger that.

 

[j00fek]

ill rest judgment till the new fab opens up in NY, then they will have more output to work with.

 

[f4phantom2500]

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Even if the new AMD chips have lower clockspeeds that doesn't mean that they won't be able to outperform intel's chips. Look what intel did with the C2D, released with lower clockspeeds than the P4 but certainly outperformed the old P4. AMD could do the same.

But who really knows yet? I don't think anyone knows really, it is more just speculation. I for one hope that AMD becomes the top performer again, but I am an AMD fan. However I'm not going to vote on the poll since I don't know which way it'll go.

That seems likely, as the engineers at each company know how to design an architecture that can hit 3GHz (AMD) and 4GHz (Intel). By designing a hugely more efficient processor (C2D over P4, hopefully K10 (?) over K8) and releasing it at lower clock speeds that are still better than the fastest of the old processor, with all the headroom from their current clock speed to their max clock speed (most likely similar to the max of the old one; after all they do use their own past designs as references, it's not like they totally start over from scratch every few years) by the time they release processors up at the max speed again (or once they're overclocked), they will be better processors than any the company has released (C2D, hopefully K10).

 

[theprodigalrebel]

I'm saying tie at stock speeds. Price/Performance will be similar.

Edit: This is just sheer speculation but I have a feeling for overclockers, Intel might still be the way to go.

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
I'm saying tie at stock speeds. Price/Performance will be similar.

Edit: This is just sheer speculation but I have a feeling for overclockers, Intel might still be the way to go.

lol, ur describing todays situation...but i guess ur right though.

 

[Cheex]

Intel grabbed the crown back with both hands, both feet, their head and their arse...so they won't be letting it go.

Intel FTW...

 

[Rottie]

Originally posted by: j00fek
ill rest judgment till the new fab opens up in NY, then they will have more output to work with.

"Made in New York"? No more "Made in Taiwan"?

 

[sandorski]

Maybe

 

[StopSign]

AMD will win if the improvement from K8 to K10 is greater than from NetBurst to Core 2. I don't see that happening.

 

[Stoneburner]

exactly when will we know? When will AMD actually run a demo at least of their chips?

 

[Hulk]

Everybody has their analysis, theories, predictions, etc...

All I'm saying is make a pick and we'll dig up this thread when the time comes and see who's right and wrong.

I say Intel stays on top.

 

[hytek369]

i hope they do

 

[Regs]

My only hope is that both Intel and AMD make aggressive moves and innovations in the future. I would also like to see another company come into the fray. Im sick of ATI vs Nvidia and AMD vs Intel.

 

[HurleyBird]

It would be nice if AMD's offerings came out on top. I'm rooting for AMD until they have 50% of the market, and anyone who wants better competition and better products should too.

 

[f4phantom2500]

I hope AMD comes out on top.

Situation 1: AMD comes out on top, which means a new #1 processor, which means everything else is cheaper, as well as a new high end (which will hopefully be affordable, but if not, at least Conroe, if not Penryn as well, will be dirt cheap)

Situation 2: Intel stays on top, Penryn is expensive, Conroe is still somewhat pricey, K10 sucks.

 

[lopri]

AMD has already 'leaked' the performance of the upcoming K10. Well, sort of..