Poll: Who is your company in bed with: Intel or AMD (...or Apple)

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HellRaven

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hehe, here comes the Intel troll again (fkloster) Would you like to try to convince the BBS once again the RDRAM is a good solution? :)

"it is easy to forget how dominate Intel is in business computing isn't it?"

Well as you can see by the posts here - No not really. It isn't surprising at all that Intel holds a large marketshare in the business world. It doesn't really have as much to do with performance as with perception. A good percentage of us that visit anandtech and other such sites are gamers and enthusiasts.
When was the last time you saw the IT manager or purchaser of a large corporation post here? Do you think they know about Intel's or AMD's latest problems or success?

I believe it is just a case of human nature. They use something, it works fine, so when it comes time to buy new stuff they buy what they are familiar with. They aren't willing to take a "risk" on a new company. I don't blame them since I have felt the same way sometimes. It is the same as someone buying a Ford and liking it and then buying another Ford when they want a new car. They probably don't care that car company X may have better performance or a lower price.

Many large companies have bought and used Dell's. Dell is Intel's bedfellow since they only sell Intel systems (pretty much for the same reason as the reason these companies buy dell, vicious little circle isn't it? :)). The people that work for these companies are thinking "Hey these Dell's are alright, Intel processors are great."

I personally don't care what a business decides to buy, but I just hate the idea of an uniformed consumer, or in this case business, buying simply because "Intel good, AMD bad!"
 
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90% - Intel
5% - Mac's
5% - SGI's

I am going to build a few athlon systems to see how effecient it is at rendering.
 

Sunner

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PM, I was under the impression that you guys used alot of Ultra80's over there?
Ah well, you learn something new every day, anyway, what generation is that PA?

Where I work, we use all Compaq for the desktops, so that would be all intel.

For the servers, I guess one could say we're in bed with Sun, we use Sun/Solaris for everything that doesnt explicitly demand windows, and I dont see this changing anytime soon, considdering how all of us here hate windows for servers, and quite a few hate it for desktops as well :)
 

noxipoo

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Most of the labs have Omnitech (Intel) and the rest is new Dells and old Gateways. Some cheap stuff like HP and other celeron stuff. Some macs because they don't know what they bought (seriously) then theres the science labs with SGI machines. very few Sun machines.
 

AndrewR

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Company has contract with IBM since we have some enormous servers at our datacenter (4 monsters), but they also have some Sun servers (16 or so) and a scattering of smaller IBMs. All desktops are IBM as well as laptops and use Intel. Unfortunately, they are all two years old now and are starting to show their age. It gets annoying when using a 933MHz computer at home to go to work to a 266MHz laptop (might be 300); 256MB of RAM to 64MB; 7200rpm drive to something like 3400. :(

I thought the 2 terabyte data storage unit was pretty cool, expandable to 8 terabytes. :Q
 

Zak

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Paulson, you simply have no idea what you're talking about. Macs are good for graphics and everyday use. Support is easy and they're very reliable (we even run some servers - callendars, key servers, FileMaker databases - on plain MacOS and OSX and they're up for over a year now). Nobody plays games at work/school so that they suck with games is not an issue. Sure, they're a bit more expensive but it's usually not an issue with huge grants universities receive. If you ever saw one of those dual 500MHz Macs in Photoshop or video editing you'd change your mind. I work with Macs, there are about 300 Macs and 50 PCs in my building (a bio research facilty) and I'm the only support guy for those. It takes under an hour to setup a new Mac: 10-15 minutes to install OS and 20 minutes for apps and stuff. Try that with Win98 or NT. You don't need to restart Macs after every little installation or change you have made. G4s also reboot in about half the time a PIII machine takes to reboot.

I prefer PCs at home, because I play games and I know how to work with computers, but I rather work with Macs during the day, considering that most of the end users are not very computer literate. Macs are easier to use and support, there is no way you can prove otherwise. There are excellent admin tools like for NT. No registry to screw up, no IRQ conflicts, you can enable/disable system components by dragging their icons out of the System Folder, you can move or remove apps without having to uninstall anything,etc.

Zak (wearing flame-retardant suit)

PS. The infrastructure (www, email, ftp, Mac/Win file sharing, science apps) runs on SGIs: two 8-CPU Origin 2000 machines with 1.5GB RAM and 500GB of RAID and various smaller Indigo, O2, Octane machines as terminals, but that's not my area of work, I'm not a UNIX guy:)
 

etech

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Yep, I'd say that currently 99% of the computers at the company are running Intels. Almost all the Macs have been phased out with the exceptions of a few diehard that said they would quit if the company took away their Mac.

Just because someone is in IT does not mean they know what they are talking about. He bought some small servers with i820 boards and 128 Mb RDRAM and them proceded to buy PC700 RDRAM at over $400 for 128Mb. It was a complete waste of money. He read an article saying how much faster RDRAM was. Essentially Rambus proproganda cost our company a lot of money for an inferior product.

I think a more interesting question is-- At the end of 2001 what percentage do you thing AMD will have? AMD is gaining more and more respect as they execute well and Intel falters.
 

Zak

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My university set a standard for Pentium III machines and have a contract with Dell. They will not authorize a purchase of an Athlon system at this time. Lame.

Zak
 
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Intel, because my idiot boss thinks some of the software we have at work won't work with AMD's processors. :rolleyes: (we definitely need a sarcasm emoticon)
 

Ben

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Actually, if there was a option to pick HP, I'd have to choose that one. That's all my boss will buy. HP computers, printers, scanners, monitors, everything. He LOVES HP. I HATE HP.

He has no idea who AMD is. He thinks it's some underachiever company (like Cyrix) who going to be gone in a year. HE HAS NO CLUE. I want to punch him in the eye.
 

kmike75

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My company's in bed with ibm lease... my 11 year old son could build a better system!!! lock me, crashit, ACK!!!!!!!! never met no one that could screw up NT like these idiots could. Being a front line stupidvisor is bad enough, but having to end the shift by staying an hour over to write a report on this crashing piece of shi+!!!!

at work...
ibm---
p-2 chump---
128 mg generic ram---
4.something cheap azz hd thats been replaced twice---
21" ibm monitor so i can watch frick'in scan disk in xtra large---
no sound... i make my own, but i can't post it---
stupid desktop with company logo, some type of virus called PILKINGTON---
oh yeah, a video card, they have to give me one cuz i have to be able to see when scan disk runz,,, like when i log in...---
oh, did i mention security? can't load any exe files, can't install a printer ( have to print confidential stuff in the control room next door, where EVERYONE reads it )---
but hey, it's all in a real nice case, long as you don't try opening it...


 

Aquaman

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My company uses Intel only. We (a manufacturing company) don't change computers that often (heck we still have some 486 kicking around). Now that AMD has some good chips out and I have some say in the computer purchases, I'll seriously look into the AMD ships.

Cheers,
Aquaman