Everybody says how great the Pioneer slots are, but does anybody know AOpen make slot loaders too? With Pioneer's technology, and their own dampering system, the AOpens are relatively quieter than the vacuum-like Pioneers, they're also cheaper, and their bezel looks cooler. Toshibas would've been perfect if they aren't locked down to 2~4x DVD movie playback. LiteOns would've been perfect if they can do a better job of handling scratched and ill-maintained CDs. Pioneers, they would've been perfect if they can actually playback DVD at 16x and not half that speed, if they can DAE faster, and if they become better CloneCD compliants. You can go on and make a case for almost any brand out there, the truth, there is no perfect DVD-ROM, in fact, many brands out there have one or more significant drawbacks.