Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: moshquerade
you have now elected to carry the burden of proof.
Actually, I think you have to prove your stance first.
the challenger does. i can then refute.
err no.
you made a statement. he called you on it. it is up to you to prove what you said. it is not up to him to prove you wrong.
It's funny, I remember having this very same conversation with dmccowen.
Originally posted by: 5to1baby1in5
I don't hate all cops, but I realize that the sole purpose of their job is to throw you, me, and anyone else they can in jail. It's what they are paid to do.
That being said I try to distance myself from them and live 'under the radar' so to speak.
Originally posted by: OdiN
Where's the option in the poll for "I like cops"?
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: 5to1baby1in5
I don't hate all cops, but I realize that the sole purpose of their job is to throw you, me, and anyone else they can in jail. It's what they are paid to do.
That being said I try to distance myself from them and live 'under the radar' so to speak.
That is not their purpose...
Originally posted by: moshquerade
most people who hate cops hate them for doing their job correctly and well.Originally posted by: rh71
"No wonder everyone hates cops"...
Oh really?
Originally posted by: 5to1baby1in5
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: 5to1baby1in5
I don't hate all cops, but I realize that the sole purpose of their job is to throw you, me, and anyone else they can in jail. It's what they are paid to do.
That being said I try to distance myself from them and live 'under the radar' so to speak.
That is not their purpose...
Well, sure. Their stated porpose is to "serve and protect." The way they do that is to get people who don't conform to society's standards (i.e. law breakers) off the street and keep society safe.
When you're (I'm) driving down the street and pass a police car, the officer looks at your (my) vehicle and would sure like to give you (me) a ticket if your (my) plate is not up to date. Your (my) only defense is to not be expired. He wants to give you (me) a ticket. If you (I) are doing something worse, and he can arrest you (me), that's all the better. It's his job to arrest you (me). If he doesn't make arrests, then he is not doing his job.
Originally posted by: Fiat1
Originally posted by: moshquerade
most people who hate cops hate them for doing their job correctly and well.Originally posted by: rh71
"No wonder everyone hates cops"...
Oh really?
Yea Yea Yea sorta like these cops.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1yUsYIk2EM
1. Woman is assaulted....she calls 911 for help.
2. Police arrive and think she is the bad guy so they smack her around some more.
3. They take her to jail and then rip her cloths off and leave her naked and untreated for 6 hours.
And we pay their salary and they still treat us like crap.
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: OdiN
Where's the option in the poll for "I like cops"?
It's the option where it doesn't say I dislike cops.
Originally posted by: Aikouka
I wonder if I made a bumper sticker like "I support my local police" and got pulled over... would they be more willing to let me go? That'd be an interesting study.
Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Most are alright, but they do not deserve to be put on a pedastill imho. They are just regular human beings, just as flawed, just as corrupt, and just as biased. The vast majority you do not have to worry about, but the few that are are sufficiently enough to keep your eye out for your own liberties. We as a people are inherently suspicious of government, and by extension, those who the government grants powers such as policemen have. I once had a member of my family arrested wrongfully because a neighbor with whom we had a property dispute knew the police higher-ups. They had a sherriff out for my relative under false pretenses by calling in a tip to the officer in person, whereas we couldn't even get the dept to return our call. He who has the gold makes the rules, remember that.
That being said, I have been in situations where the police were as levelheaded and nice as can be, like a good neighbor. They just wanted to be sure everything is alright and that no trouble occurs. It all depends on the person behind the uniform.
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: 5to1baby1in5
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: 5to1baby1in5
I don't hate all cops, but I realize that the sole purpose of their job is to throw you, me, and anyone else they can in jail. It's what they are paid to do.
That being said I try to distance myself from them and live 'under the radar' so to speak.
That is not their purpose...
Well, sure. Their stated porpose is to "serve and protect." The way they do that is to get people who don't conform to society's standards (i.e. law breakers) off the street and keep society safe.
When you're driving down the street and pass a police car, the officer looks at your vehicle and would sure like to give you a ticket if your plate is not up to date. Your only defense is to not be expired. He wants to give you a ticket. If you are doing something worse, and he can arrest you that's all the better. It's his job to arrest you. If he doesn't make arrests, then he is not doing his job.
Wow... that was unreadable.So I think you see the problem with your original post - a cop's purpose is to catch law breakers, not to "throw you, me and anyone else they can in jail."
I don't think you'd find many cops who would rather have more arrests (more crime) than fewer arrests (less crime).
Originally posted by: skace
Originally posted by: moshquerade
the experience as a kid with cops was horrible because..... you got caught for doing something wrong? or were the cops doing something wrong to you in those cases?
It wasn't so much the caught doing something wrong part, but the treatment in said cases. Like the first time I got pulled over, the cop waited inside his car for 30 minutes. I had never been pulled over so I wasn't sure what was going on, so I got out of my car and he started to flip out. Plus, he pulled me over by speeding down the street at 80mph until he caught up to me without his flashing lights on (in the dark). Then he turned them on after tailgating me and causing me to speed up. When he questioned me he asked why I sped up and said having someone on my ass isn't a valid reason. What a bunch of lame shit that was.
In fact, I think all of my experience with cops is from speeding. Cops that give speeding tickets are angry.
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
A friend of mine was a victim of police brutality. Ever since that incident I haven't looked at the police in the same light.
Originally posted by: Nitemare
I like cops that fight crime.
Cops that hide in police cars just writing speeding/revenue tickets can suck my left nut though