Poll: What do you think about PE in school?

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Chaotic42

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I think that grades should be given based on attitude, trying, and teamwork. If you're bad at something, it doesn't matter in PE. I sucked at basketball, but I always had a 100 because I tried.
 

jsbush

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So you're saying that the effect of the parent's lifestyle on the child is that small? I'm like my dad in quite a few ways. I do a lot of the same things he does.

Don't take my word for it though. Look at fat couples. They have fat kids. Look at fit couples. They have fit kids. How much of that can be attributed only to genetics?



Yes, because I know a few people, me included, who don't believe in PE at school, and who have parents who are not physically active, and we were probably some of the most fit people in school, and we still are fit.
 

StageLeft

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It is VERY discouraging to get a bad grade for something you can't do much about and not be graded based on the effort you put in/progress you make/what you ARE good at.
Yeah I think PE should be graded entirely on effort.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: jsbush
So you're saying that the effect of the parent's lifestyle on the child is that small? I'm like my dad in quite a few ways. I do a lot of the same things he does.

Don't take my word for it though. Look at fat couples. They have fat kids. Look at fit couples. They have fit kids. How much of that can be attributed only to genetics?



Yes, because I know a few people, me included, who dodn't believe in PE at school, and who have parents who are not physically active, and we were probably some of the most fit people in school, and we still are fit.

Well, it's good that you're physically fit, but look around. Maybe you grew up in a different place than I did, but where I'm from fat parents have fat kids, and most kids end up very much like their parents.
 

Isla

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
I think that grades should be given based on attitude, trying, and teamwork. If you're bad at something, it doesn't matter in PE. I sucked at basketball, but I always had a 100 because I tried.


I wish that was the case down here. We got graded according to how we did on each sport, and that got averaged out for the final grade.

LOL, I just could NOT hit that damn golf ball off the tee! And you should see me try to play tennis. But I'm a good cyclist, skater, jogger, yoga-er, and so on!


 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: jsbush
So you're saying that the effect of the parent's lifestyle on the child is that small? I'm like my dad in quite a few ways. I do a lot of the same things he does.

Don't take my word for it though. Look at fat couples. They have fat kids. Look at fit couples. They have fit kids. How much of that can be attributed only to genetics?



Yes, because I know a few people, me included, who dodn't believe in PE at school, and who have parents who are not physically active, and we were probably some of the most fit people in school, and we still are fit.

Well, it's good that you're physically fit, but look around. Maybe you grew up in a different place than I did, but where I'm from fat parents have fat kids, and most kids end up very much like their parents.
Agreed. There are certainly exceptions, but by and large kids tend to mirror their parents. Think about how many time you've seen a huge mom and dad with two or three butterball kids following them in the mall. If the parents keep and serve crappy food in the house and being sedentary is "normal", odds are the kids won't make too much of an effort to break that mold.

 

J Heartless Slick

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They need to change PE. Instead of being a show case for the better athletes and a humiliation for the slow chubbies, PE should be like an upscale exercise club. Each kid should get a fitness work up and an exercise program tailored to their needs. Plus there should be some type of reward system in place to give positive feedback for fitness.
 

Saltin

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PE is necessary in school, but currently, they have it all wrong.

Most of you will agree that PE centers around competitive sports (athletics). Not everyone is so hot at sports. Not everyone is an athelete. For the kids that arent so hot/ competitive, it leaves a bad taste in thier mouth in regard to PE. They remember getting picked last, laughed at and told how much the "suck".

The end result is that people equate sports/competition with staying fit.

That's not true at all.

What they need to focus on in the schools is fitness. You don't need to be a great basketball player or runner to be fit. Anyone can be fit and it pays off big time in life. They don't teach that in school.
 

Isla

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Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick
They need to change PE. Instead of being a show case for the better athletes and a humiliation for the slow chubbies, PE should be like an upscale exercise club. Each kid should get a fitness work up and an exercise program tailored to their needs. Plus there should be some type of reward system in place to give positive feedback for fitness.

Actually, that probably IS the best solution. After all, in academic classes, they don't humilate the slower people by showcasing the geniuses. They don't put Learning Disabled in with Advanced Placement and just tell the slower kids to suck it up. They get a baseline for each kid and work from there. Using myself as an example, it was my MOTHER and SISTERS who taught me to perservere in sports as I worked to overcome my visual handicap. My PE coaches didn't seem to realize or to care that I was challenged to perceive depth and had to work twice as hard as normal sighted kids to just keep from tripping over my own two feet. I remember coming to class with an EYE PATCH and still the coach expected me to perform based on regulation standards. Duh!

A lot of kids get turned off from PE because they have asthma, vision problems, etc. Each kid should have a chart that lists their handicaps, goals, progress, etc. But I doubt it will ever happen.

 

Joyride

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I was one of the more unathletic kids in my high school and I loved PE from 1st grade all the way to high school.

I didn't care that I would sweat like a pig for the rest of the school day. As long as I got my ass out of my chair and doing something active I was happy.

Oh and JeffreyLebowski shut your fvcking mouth. My dad is a PE teacher and he is definetly not gay. Maybe if you had a real PE teacher in school you wouldn't be so screwed up in the head
 

TwoMix

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PE is good in HS it gives the kids a chance to try different sports out and see what they like/want to pursue further after school.
I have to take 6 semesters of pe in uni.
Too many fat kids/adults now especially in my college!!
 

Isla

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Originally posted by: Joyride
I was one of the more unathletic kids in my high school and I loved PE from 1st grade all the way to high school.

I didn't care that I would sweat like a pig for the rest of the school day. As long as I got my ass out of my chair and doing something active I was happy.

Oh and JeffreyLebowski shut your fvcking mouth. My dad is a PE teacher and he is definetly not gay. Maybe if you had a real PE teacher in school you wouldn't be so screwed up in the head


In the defense of PE teachers, there ARE good ones out there who make the effort to work with the kids instead of just trying to make the kids fit the regular grading mold. Unfortunately, just like with bad academic teachers, the bad PE teachers tend to really do damage to the kids they are supposed to be helping.

Good teachers of any kind are worth their weight in gold. More, even!
 

skace

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In most schools, there are kids that feel humiliated by the math class that they are in. Just like there are kids in PE who feel humiliated. Except the kid in math class, has to seek help afterclass, or get a study group, or fail. The kid in PE just gets laughed at and usually ends up passing somehow.

The body and mind are one, both are areas that people need education on. I do not think 50% of the day should be PE, but I do think it is a decent part of growing up. I do think a lot of PE classes are not taught right -- in that they don't give kids a better understanding of how things affect their health and how their health affects them. In school we had 2 classes: Health Ed and Phys Ed. Health Ed was supposed to teach you how to live a healthy life. But our teacher was a slacker and we spent half the course analyzing ground hog day. Sure, the movie had some stuff to analyze, but it didn't answer any real questions in day to day living. In a perfect world, Health Ed would have made me understand how to eat better and the effects on my body of not living healthy (you know, joint pains / depression / tired all the time / etc). In a perfect world, Phys Ed would have shown me how to improve my running style, how to throw a ball better or how to jump higher. Neither was the case.

 

Toasthead

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I loved the opportunity to get out and run around. It helps to break up the school day too.

 

Soybomb

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No matter what school the male gym teachers always wore tight shorts that should be illegal.

I'm convinced that 90% of gym teachers are gay, the other 10% are members of NAMBLA.
Tell me about it, you should have seen the shorts they made us wear for PE. My boxers literally hung out the bottom. I think pe should have more education though. Instead of just running kids around a track of making them play games, teach them more about how to work out, what goals working out in a certain way can achieve, more nutrition, etc.
 

Dudd

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I couldn't make it through school with gym class. Nothing like leaving a Calc class, playing basketball for 40 minutes, and then heading to Economics. Without gym, I don't think I'd ever have woken up. I have to take some more in college next year too. Golf lessons, anyone?
 

StageLeft

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Male PE teachers are not gay. It's the WOMEN PE teachers that are gay almost all the damn time
 

KokomoGST

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In my school PE used to be a real class where if you didn't come up to snuff on the fitness tests or didn't participate fully or you were overly aggressive... you had to put in extra time after school just like any other class.

If you were fat and lazy and decided not to run to attempt to make a minimum requirement for a fitness test, you HAD to come back after school and do a little running with the PE teacher a few times to pass PE. If you were a friggin jerk, you had to run for discipline.

I had asthma as a child... there are treatments and such, and I did PE and didn't wuss out of it like so many other asthmatics... in fact, among the asthmatics in my school, only the FAT ones complained. The rest might have used their inhalers after one of the more strenuous fitness tests, like the mile run. Otherwise, regular PE like volleyball or basketball or whatnot was fine... they took their inhalers after PE anywho, but I never seemed to need it. Steroid therapy works.

Methinks you SHOULD be mocked mercilessly for being fat and lazy... friggin too much diabetes from obesity...
 

grillmasterP

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PE/Gym Class in school is great- It serves as a proving ground- Stand your ground or prove your abilities and nobody messes with you (like Prison). If you are slow or lazy then you end up being picked last.
In 4th & 5th grade I hated the presidential fitness test - I was slow in the mile run and couldn't do that many chin-ups.
That gave me the incentive to exercise so I could later kick arse in chin-ups, rope-climbing, push-ups etc.....

And don't forget....Dodgeball is the best sport ever!
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: grillmasterP
PE/Gym Class in school is great- It serves as a proving ground- Stand your ground or prove your abilities and nobody messes with you (like Prison). If you are slow or lazy then you end up being picked last.
In 4th & 5th grade I hated the presidential fitness test - I was slow in the mile run and couldn't do that many chin-ups.
That gave me the incentive to exercise so I could later kick arse in chin-ups, rope-climbing, push-ups etc.....

And don't forget....Dodgeball is the best sport ever!
Word. I LIVED for dodgeball. Nothing like a game where you get to throw things as hard as you can at the kids you don't like. :D

 

Nitemare

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Since the majority of Americans are either fat or getting fat(kids included) It should be mandatory

Thinking back to high school. We had 3 groups of kids in PE, kids that participated, prima donna's that refused to do anything that required them to sweat or get dirty, and fat loser kids that did nothing but group together like cattle.

The PE teachers gave up these latter two groups because they knew that they were lost causes.

For starters they need to forbid political correctness from the gym. Banning dodgeball and other sports because it descriminates against unathletic kids...what kind of sh!t is that. Hell, we played gorrilla ball(basketball similar to kill the man with the ball, no blood no foul rules) or flag football(in which you tackled the person then pulled off their flag)
 

Isla

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Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: grillmasterP
PE/Gym Class in school is great- It serves as a proving ground- Stand your ground or prove your abilities and nobody messes with you (like Prison). If you are slow or lazy then you end up being picked last.
In 4th & 5th grade I hated the presidential fitness test - I was slow in the mile run and couldn't do that many chin-ups.
That gave me the incentive to exercise so I could later kick arse in chin-ups, rope-climbing, push-ups etc.....

And don't forget....Dodgeball is the best sport ever!
Word. I LIVED for dodgeball. Nothing like a game where you get to throw things as hard as you can at the kids you don't like. :D


LOL! OMG, you have no idea how often I was the target of that kind of aggression. Being a cross eyed girl who wins spelling bees/writing contests does NOT make one popular with the other little girls. I moved next door to a girl (Ok, woman now) who used to torment me in PE and she actually came over and apologised to me when she realized who I was.

Life is strange.
 

Encryptic

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I voted for PE in schools even though I hated it when I went to school. The main reason being that I always got stuck on the same team with the jocks and the "cool guys" who thought it was funny to make fun of the nerd with a hearing problem and no social skills whatsoever. Not to mention we had to play football or basketball or what have you.

On the other hand, exercise is a good thing.