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Poll: What Debian do you use?

Chaotic42

Chaotic42

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I've used testing/unstable since about 1998. Back when I first installed it, I used 1.3. To be honest, I don't remember if it was a regular release version or not.

Everyone says you're on the bleeding edge when you use testing, but I've yet to have a single problem that was caused by the software (usually it's me mucking things up). This install has been around for a few years (since 2001, IIRC).

So what do you use?
 
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I used testing when I used Debian.
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"used Debian"..you no longer use it ?

Also, I just bought a ps2 y connector, so get both mouse and keyboard into an old box I am making into a linux server.

Except there is no ps2 port in the mobo, I use an adaptor to plug it into an AT port.

mouse, keyboard -> ps2 y connector -> ps2 adaptor -> AT port

Will it work ?
 
Originally posted by: Bulldog13
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I used testing when I used Debian.
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"used Debian"..you no longer use it ?
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No. I hosed it one day and decided to try out slack since I had been slack free for several years. It was the first distro I liked.

That might be getting wiped for OpenBSD since it supports SMP now. Not sure yet.

The Y adapters should work, I'd guess. 😛
 
unstable, as long as you're carefull about not upgrading blindly (apt-listbugs helps a lot) it's perfect.
 
I've had less problems running unstable then testing. In unstable, if I run into a problem, it's fixed within a day or two. In testing, I have to wait 2 weeks to get through unstable. I haven't yet run into a BIG problem in unstable.

I tend to update my unstable system daily, so apt-listbugs doesn't do much good, but I find apt-listchanges to be very helpful.
 
I installed Stable, but it ran like crap. Then I upgraded to Testing and it's pretty smooth - almost as smooth as Windows 😛
 
I always used testing when I was using Debian. Right now: PC Linux OS. Building a new rig this weekend. Will use Debian testing, as always 🙂
 
I made the huge mistake of mixing and matching. When I f'd it up beyond repair (apt-get dist-upgrade + apt-get -f install wouldn't fix it), I switched to Arch. 🙂
 
You should only dist-upgrade when moving between distribution trees, that's why it's called dist-upgrade. Generally it won't break anything, but it gives apt the power to remove packages if it thinks the upgrade requires it so if you mix and match wrong you can have problems. A
 
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Bulldog13
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I used testing when I used Debian.
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"used Debian"..you no longer use it ?
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No. I hosed it one day and decided to try out slack since I had been slack free for several years. It was the first distro I liked.

That might be getting wiped for OpenBSD since it supports SMP now. Not sure yet.

The Y adapters should work, I'd guess. 😛
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An old slackhead like me likes Arch, try it, you get the control that Slack brings and a package management that exceeds debians

I think i am going to wipe Slack, the only linux distro i have liked for this and make it the only distro on my desktop.

The rest of the machines will still be runing Open/NetBSD though.
 
Originally posted by: Bulldog13
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I used testing when I used Debian.
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"used Debian"..you no longer use it ?

Also, I just bought a ps2 y connector, so get both mouse and keyboard into an old box I am making into a linux server.

Except there is no ps2 port in the mobo, I use an adaptor to plug it into an AT port.

mouse, keyboard -> ps2 y connector -> ps2 adaptor -> AT port

Will it work ?
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No it won't work, of course it won't, the old AT port was for keyboards only and will only accept keyboard sequences, if you need a mouse on your server that doesn't have a PS/2 connector you use a serial connector, PS/2 to serial.

That's like trying to get your mouse to work by using a dual connector for your video out.

(there are dual ps/2 Y connectors for a reason, think notebook where the active switch is built-in for all others you need an active switch , for an old at-mobo with a i8059 din connector you cannot connect your mouse to the keyboard plug if you don't resolder your mainboard).
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
You should only dist-upgrade when moving between distribution trees, that's why it's called dist-upgrade. Generally it won't break anything, but it gives apt the power to remove packages if it thinks the upgrade requires it so if you mix and match wrong you can have problems. A
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It shouldn't but it could, it won't but it did, that about sums up my experience with debian, a big fat MAYBE. So i have been using Slack instead, until i discovered Arch, you really should try it, it's the best of Slack and the best of Debian.

Debian is a distro for those who have nothing to do but tinkering with their system, 10% of all upgrades breaks something unless you use year old packages.

Or, you could just screw your system up and wonder what went wrong, like right now, a hotplug kernel with a nvidia driver that does NOT SUPPORT HOTPLUG, this is known, yet you still get both upgrades in the same tree.

Debian sucks @ the internet.
 
Debian is a distro for those who have nothing to do but tinkering with their system, 10% of all upgrades breaks something unless you use year old packages.
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Strange, I can't remember the last upgrade that broke something on my machine and I run unstable.

Or, you could just screw your system up and wonder what went wrong, like right now, a hotplug kernel with a nvidia driver that does NOT SUPPORT HOTPLUG, this is known, yet you still get both upgrades in the same tree.
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The Debian nvidia-kernel-source packages have a patch for the nVidia driver that adds hotplug/sysfs support.

Debian sucks @ the internet.
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You must just suck at reading or something, I have Debian running on a half-dozen machines and none of them have any problems.
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
Debian is a distro for those who have nothing to do but tinkering with their system, 10% of all upgrades breaks something unless you use year old packages.
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Strange, I can't remember the last upgrade that broke something on my machine and I run unstable.

Or, you could just screw your system up and wonder what went wrong, like right now, a hotplug kernel with a nvidia driver that does NOT SUPPORT HOTPLUG, this is known, yet you still get both upgrades in the same tree.
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The Debian nvidia-kernel-source packages have a patch for the nVidia driver that adds hotplug/sysfs support.

Debian sucks @ the internet.
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You must just suck at reading or something, I have Debian running on a half-dozen machines and none of them have any problems.
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1. i remember it, like today or yesterday, debian sucks if you want recent packs combined with a stable distro, yeah, you get unstable, but it's fvcked compared to others working current, debian, IOW is worthless unless you want year old packs. Recommendation, do Slack, Arch or use stable Redhat.

The patch does NOT WORK! unless you disable udev in the system of course, then what use do you have of hotplug? NEVER INSTALL APT VERSION OF NVIDIA DRIVERS, this is a tip.

Debian is great if you have no brain and want to download stable, burn it, and it might work, with two year old packages.

Face it, debian has taken stable one step to far and doesn't care about the stability of packs more recent than one year.

Slack is always stabl e(even current), i like my new testing ground Arch (also pretty stable at current), where Debian is going there is nothing but a steep end. old packages or packages they don't care about.
 
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Debian is a distro for those who have nothing to do but tinkering with their system, 10% of all upgrades breaks something unless you use year old packages.

Or, you could just screw your system up and wonder what went wrong, like right now, a hotplug kernel with a nvidia driver that does NOT SUPPORT HOTPLUG, this is known, yet you still get both upgrades in the same tree.

Debian sucks @ the internet.
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Aside from Debian 1.3, back when I had no idea what was going on with Unix, I've never had any problems with anything breaking. I've also had no problems connecting to the internet, except for my wireless card, which wasn't Debian's fault.

I don't really see how it can suck at the internet.
 
1. i remember it, like today or yesterday, debian sucks if you want recent packs combined with a stable distro, yeah, you get unstable, but it's fvcked compared to others working current, debian, IOW is worthless unless you want year old packs. Recommendation, do Slack, Arch or use stable Redhat.
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You're on crack, I run unstable on 2 of the 6 machines and it's perfectly fine.

The patch does NOT WORK! unless you disable udev in the system of course, then what use do you have of hotplug? NEVER INSTALL APT VERSION OF NVIDIA DRIVERS, this is a tip.
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My notebook is using that patch along with udev and hotplug and it works fine.

For all of your problems, I claim user error.
 
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