*Poll* What are you racially and politically

[mss242]

I just finished writing a paper about this topic, and I wanted to see how the political divisions fall across racial classes here at AT.

 

[CrazyHelloDeli]

Black Conservative here.

 

[Amused]

You left out libertarian. That's a socially liberal, fiscally conservative person. "Moderate" does not describe this, as "moderate" is too broad and can mean anything.

 

[Thegonagle]

I guess I'd like to call myself moderate, because I don't dislike all republican polititions (GW Bush is doing a good job right now, and I like McCain), and I even kind of like Jesse Ventura sometimes, but I side with the democrats most often. I like Joe Liberman a lot too.

I'm all for keeping a good balance, and I hate government waste, but we can't forget the about environment or the education of every child in every public school.

BTW, I'm white.

 

[mss242]

There you go Amused. I figured if I included libertarian, then I would have to include commie as well. This may be the largest poll I have ever seen.

 

[Amused]

<< There you go Amused. I figured if I included libertarian, then I would have to include commie as well. This may be the largest poll I have ever seen. >>



Thanks

You have commie covered under liberal

 

[mss242]

<< You have commie covered under liberal >>



But commies are socially conservative. They believe in no limiting freedom of speech and press among many other very socially conservative notions. But thanks for the jab anyway

 

[CalamitousSoul]

Bump for you. Now...why do you want to know?

 

[Pocatello]

Hi

 

[Amused]

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<< You have commie covered under liberal >>



But commies are socially conservative. They believe in no limiting freedom of speech and press among many other very socially conservative notions. But thanks for the jab anyway >>



I've seen liberals do their fair share of attempts to limit free speech and press, or has the entire PC movement escaped you? When the state controls your finances, it soon finds it must control your life. Socialism ALWAYS leads to a loss of individual freedoms. You want "free" medical care? The state gets to dictate what you may or may not do with your own body. I could go on and explain all the other freedoms the socialist state will find it must limit, but why thread crap?

 

[Ns1]

define liberal and define conservative and i'll vote =)

 

[thomsbrain]

<< Black Conservative here. >>



lol, that's like a woman choosing to be a muslim.

 

[Amused]

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<< Black Conservative here. >>



lol, that's like a woman choosing to be a muslim. >>



Why? What part of conservatism seeks to limit the rights and freedom of minorities?

 

[Martin]

<< You want "free" medical care? The state gets to dictate what you may or may not do with your own body. >>




Care to elaborate? 95% of canadians will disagree.


Last I checked the government recommended that I don't smoke and such, but it's no different than your Surgeon General's warning.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

White and libertarian, thank you very much

 

[mss242]

<< I've seen liberals do their fair share of attempts to limit free speech and press, or has the entire PC movement escaped you? >>



Those aren't really liberals though. They are commies. No self-respecting liberal would ever support things like hate crime laws. at least in my opinion.



<< When the state controls your finances, it soon finds it must control your life. Socialism ALWAYS leads to a loss of individual freedoms. You want "free" medical care? The state gets to dictate what you may or may not do with your own body. I could go on and explain all the other freedoms the socialist state will find it must limit, but why thread crap? >>



And out pops the libertarian I don't really want to engage you on the philosophical merits of libertarianism vs. liberalism because this is more of a research thread. Plus my philosopher of choice (rawls) could beat the pants off your philosopher of choice (I assume rand) on any forum from here to timbuktu However, if it is possible for someone to be socially liberal and fiscally conservative, then surely it must be possible for someone to be socially conservative and fiscally liberal. I would call this person a commie. You may call them whatever you like, but they are certainly different from liberals.

 

[Cyberian]

Is "Hispanic" now a race?

There seems to be a great deal of confusion as to the defination of a 'race'.

 

[mss242]

<< Bump for you. Now...why do you want to know? >>



I work for the census bureau Nah, I'm just curious if racial minorities are more liberal.

 

[Amused]

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<< You want "free" medical care? The state gets to dictate what you may or may not do with your own body. >>




Care to elaborate? 95% of canadians will disagree.


Last I checked the government recommended that I don't smoke and such, but it's no different than your Surgeon General's warning. >>



Hmmm, and what of the ridiculously high taxes on tobacco products in Canada?

 

[StageLeft]

orc

 

[mss242]

<< define liberal and define conservative and i'll vote =) >>



They are whatever you make of them. An attempt to classify them would be a whole new thread unto itself.

 

[mss242]

<< orc >>



???

 

[Amused]

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<< I've seen liberals do their fair share of attempts to limit free speech and press, or has the entire PC movement escaped you? >>



Those aren't really liberals though. They are commies. No self-respecting liberal would ever support things like hate crime laws. at least in my opinion.



<< When the state controls your finances, it soon finds it must control your life. Socialism ALWAYS leads to a loss of individual freedoms. You want "free" medical care? The state gets to dictate what you may or may not do with your own body. I could go on and explain all the other freedoms the socialist state will find it must limit, but why thread crap? >>



And out pops the libertarian I don't really want to engage you on the philosophical merits of libertarianism vs. liberalism because this is more of a research thread. Plus my philosopher of choice (rawls) could beat the pants off your philosopher of choice (I assume rand) on any forum from here to timbuktu However, if it is possible for someone to be socially liberal and fiscally conservative, then surely it must be possible for someone to be socially conservative and fiscally liberal. I would call this person a commie. You may call them whatever you like, but they are certainly different from liberals. >>



Not according to the popular use of the word in the US today. Many of those identifying themselves as "liberal" or "left" in the US have very socialistic/commie leanings.

As for Rawls, wealth redistribution is the most ridiculous concept ever. Anyone advocating wealth redistribution couldn't come anywhere near Rand's pants, much less beat them off. By the way, wealth redistribution is a loss of freedom and amounts to nothing less than state sponsored slavery. You do not gain freedom for one, by taking freedom away from another.

 

[mss242]

<< Is "Hispanic" now a race?

There seems to be a great deal of confusion as to the defination of a 'race'. >>



I dunno. I didn't really think about it to be honest with you. Should i change it to latino?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

<< White, conservative >>