Poll: VW Passat or Volvo for $25k?

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thrashev

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get the S40

I have a 92 volvo 960 with 184k miles, runs perfect. Was in an accident <15mph with the previous owner had small damage, mostly cosmetic, but the cavalier that was in the accident had over $8k in damage.

My friend has a 94 850 (I got the 92 960 from him, it was his accident above) and it has 140k miles, and it runs perfectly. You wouldn't even think this car has that many miles on it. His parent had a 97 850 which was totaled by said friend, now they have a 02 S40 and I must say it's nice.
 

Aharami

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Volvo, unless you want to be forced to learn how to work on cars.

surprised you didnt recommend a loaded altima for that price :p
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Get the volvo. VW will break down. After 30-40K miles, all kinds of small problems will start happening. The engine is solid and will run for a long time, but the "car" itself will have many many problems. Go with the Volvo.

I've owned 3 Volvo's in my life. And your description of, "solid engine, but the rest of the car breaks" is true of Volvos. My last Volvo, a 1997 Volvo 960 3.0 I6 ran great up to around 80,000 miles. Never had any engine troubles.

However, I did have to replace the radiator about 2 months after buying the car NEW off the lot.

I also had to have my power seat repaired because Volvo didn't put enough cabling underneath the seat, so when the seat was moved far to the rear, the cable stretched out of contact with the right side motor, disabling it.

My sunroof suffered from a design flaw, in that the track that the sunroof moved on was made of plastic, and was incapable of withstanding the pressure of the sunroof motor. This means about every 3 times you used the sunroof, it would crack the track, and the sunroof would usually be stuck. No matter how many times this was fixed (3 times for me) it would never help the problem, because it was replaced with the same parts.

But here's the funny part... I still love Volvo. They are one of the most reliable, solid cars on the road. Go SIT in a Volvo. You won't find a more comfortable car, short of a Bentley. Compare it to a BMW, a Jag, a Saab, a Mercedes, whatever. Volvo has the best seats ever made. They are also, as everyone knows, the safest car brand in the world. Look up Volvo's website, and look under the "Volvo For Life" section. It has stories of Volvo owners surviving horrific crashes.

I had a friend with a slightly modded Volvo C70, the 260hp version. He was out on 121 in Grapevine, Texas, racing a BMW m3 (second gen, 266hp.)
They were just breaking 140mph and he was pulling away from the m3, when the driver of the m3 clipped his rear end. This caused the Volvo to spin sideways, flip, bounce some 30 feet into the air, hit an overpass, and land upside down. The m3 driver raced off into the night. When the car flipped, the Volvo ROPS, or Roll Over Protection System, sprung into action, deploying the hidden roll bars in the front seats, and behind the rear seats. The car can fully support it's weight on just the windshield and the roll bars. The car's steel cage caused very little damage to be done when it hit the overpass, and the car came to a rest on it's windshield and roll bars. Fortunately a passing motorist saw the accident and called for help. Even more fortunately, the driver of the c70 was unharmed. He was slightly bruised from being tossed around, and very shaken for a few days, but otherwise unharmed.
That being said, for a budget of 25k, you can't get a decently equipped Volvo, not even an s40.
 

thrashev

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Originally posted by: Nebor
That being said, for a budget of 25k, you can't get a decently equipped Volvo, not even an s40.

this is partly true, however 25k can get you a very nice (loaded) used volvo, and leave you with some left over
 

NutBucket

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Originally posted by: m2kewl
one is owned by ford, the other has QC issues

pick your poison!! :p

Luckily, the S40 seems to be the only product of Ford ownership so far. For the most part, Volvo is still doing its own thing, away from Ford influence. It wouldn't stop me from considering one.
 

m2kewl

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: m2kewl
one is owned by ford, the other has QC issues

pick your poison!! :p

Luckily, the S40 seems to be the only product of Ford ownership so far. For the most part, Volvo is still doing its own thing, away from Ford influence. It wouldn't stop me from considering one.

i knew that, i was just kidding --> :p
 

NutBucket

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Originally posted by: m2kewl
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: m2kewl
one is owned by ford, the other has QC issues

pick your poison!! :p

Luckily, the S40 seems to be the only product of Ford ownership so far. For the most part, Volvo is still doing its own thing, away from Ford influence. It wouldn't stop me from considering one.

i knew that, i was just kidding --> :p

Oops. My sarcam meter must be on vacation today:)
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: m2kewl
one is owned by ford, the other has QC issues

pick your poison!! :p

Luckily, the S40 seems to be the only product of Ford ownership so far. For the most part, Volvo is still doing its own thing, away from Ford influence. It wouldn't stop me from considering one.

Coming soon, the SVT S40! :p
 

Mr N8

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I got to check out the 2004.5 S40 at out auto show a couple weeks ago, and it is hugely improved from the current model. It is one of the most aesthetically pleasing and most comfortable cars I was in that day. If she can wait, the base model is very nicely equiped at just under $25K MSRP. I've read rumors that it will come out with 0% for 60 months, too.
 

JulesMaximus

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Jul 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: vi_edit
TSX

Hmmn we never considered that model.

She isn't to crazy about the Accord redesign, thanks we'll check out the TSX.

A good friend of mine just bought a TSX. He loves it. He paid closer to $30k for it though with the DVD Navigation system and all the options. It's pretty sweet.

suggested the TSX simply based on the options that are standard on it. Power seats, HID's, sunroof, climate control, heated seats, ect. Awesome interior too. It's only downfall is that it's a high reving 4 cylinder. If you want low end grunt it's not the car for you. The V6 in the passat is a torquey little engine that works well in the car. It's certainly enough engine to get you moving easily. It's very quiet and smooth as well.

If it is primarily driven by one person and seldom with more than 1 passenger I don't think you would miss the torque. I bet you wouldn't miss the more frequent trips to the gas station either.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Get the volvo. VW will break down. After 30-40K miles, all kinds of small problems will start happening. The engine is solid and will run for a long time, but the "car" itself will have many many problems. Go with the Volvo.

Hey..hey..did you listen to a goddamn thing he said? Did you? Can you read?


"Don't turn this into a VW thread crap."

STFU and go away.
 

Hoober

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My wife and I just bought a Volvo XC 70. That's the V70 wagon. We looked around at Lexus, BMW, Acura and kept coming back to the Volvo. She can't get a XC 70 for 25 grand, but I would sure choose Volvo over VW, Lexus, BMW, or Acura any day. We love the new car.
 

vi edit

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I bet you wouldn't miss the more frequent trips to the gas station either.

Actually our V6 Passat Wagon does quite well on milage. My wife constantly pulls about 28-29MPG on the highway and 23-24 in town.

I'm very happy with that. The TSX may do a few MPG better but it won't be a night and day difference.
 

DuffmanOhYeah

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Please please please go buy an older 850T5-R would cost you 12k plus leave 13k for mods. Holy fsck that thing would fly.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: DuffmanOhYeah
Please please please go buy an older 850T5-R would cost you 12k plus leave 13k for mods. Holy fsck that thing would fly.

If by "fly" you mean, less than a 6 second 0-60, yes, it would fly.... But there are lots of faster cars out there. A the s60r, for example. :D