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Poll: Violent Video games lead to violence? yes or no?

Oh hell yes, after a good round of quake, I have this massive urge to grab my thunderbolt off my gun rack and go hunting!
 


<< we have more intrest in guns and stuff >>

And what's wrong with that? I like guns. I have a high interest in them. Does that mean that I'm going to get one and take another person's life?! Hell no. That's a pretty sad way of thinking. Shallow, too, if you're going to think that I'm gonna play games and kill people because of the games. Am I gonna be more violent? No. I have my own self control; I have my own dedication to life and a respect for others.

Violent video games help me release tension. I know the difference between a game and reality. I go to work stressed sometimes; I know I can sit down with a few guys, wrack up a couple hundred frags, smile, laugh a lot, and come out feeling pretty good.

Get a grip on reality and you'll be fine.
 
If someone is already on the edge, I believe that violent video games can lead them over it.

But for normal people, no.
 
Saying violent video games leads to violence is just something the press likes to use since parents don't like to take the effort to raise their children anymore. I love playing first person shooters and I'm still very strong anti-gun. I say religion causes ten times more violence than anything else in the world.
 


<< But for normal people, no >>

Exactly. normal people.



<< I say religion causes ten times more violence than anything else in the world >>

HA! Cheap and very weak shot. :|
 
As joinT said:

&quot;Games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in dark rooms munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music. &quot;
 


<< Saying violent video games leads to violence is just something the press likes to use since parents don't like to take the effort to raise their children anymore. I love playing first person shooters and I'm still very strong anti-gun. I say religion causes ten times more violence than anything else in the world. >>



That sounds exactly like something I would say.
 
datalink7

Violent games may push them over the edge, but then so could customer service with badass attitude(Falling Down?)-so it is the individual psyche, how easily disturbed it is and by what, could be anything like driving a car and old lady suddenly crosses road in front of you-so NO, IMO its the mind not the media.
 


<< As joinT said:

&quot;Games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in dark rooms munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music. &quot; >>



That's called raving. 😀
 
I think that people just try to shift blame,and violent media is an easy topic to point the finger at. People are aware of their own actions although they are afraid to be accountable for them. Thus blame corperations for fueling our bloodlust...its the easiest way out of feeling guilty for acting on our primal instincts.
 
Well seeing as some people with horrible childhoods become serial killers and some don't and people that had good childhoods can also become serial killers and others don't.. leads me to believe that violent behavior, or for that matter any behavior, is partially due to and hardwired into our genetics.. therefore someone can have a genetic predisposition to violence the same way as people do with drugs and alcohol abuse.. this might also allow said people to become swayed by virtual violence and wish to commit the true physical form of it..

Then again some people are just plain monkeys..
&quot;monkey see monkey do&quot; -----> Idiots!
 
I'll tell you what. You take away the games, and there would be alot more violence. I'd kick your ass if you take away my games!!!



<< answer the pole >>



Respect the Cock!! LOL
 
I don't do polls. Yes, violence leads to video games. If I didn't have violence in me I wouldn't play violent video games or have any interest in them. Hey wait a minute, I don't play violent video games. Probably the only reason I bought Rogue Spear and left it unopened under my couch for the last month was that it had a great sale price I just couldn't pass up.

In order to understand the source of violence you have to understand yourself. There isn't the slightest chance that anybody is going to do that. The path to self understanding is protected by the most powerful magic. In Greco_Roman mythology there are many stories of the journey through the underworld and one about having to pass through a realm where as you approach you get screamed at by horrible creatures that insult and put you down 'violently'. I think the trick was to stuff your ears to the assault.

Anyway, as with most myth, we are dealing with archetypes, externally symbolized analogies of interior mental processes common to all humanity, a kind of rough working model or map to the soul. So anybody who wishes to really understand violence can read every book and do every study and will ultimately learn next to nothing. Violence can only be understood by experiencing it, by becomming it's victim, by dropping every defense and expossing yourself raw to it's devistation and destruction. But since all our culture offers in the way of 'rites of passage' is a profound ability to turn off and be cold, dead, and defended, such a prerequisite is now an impossibility. But since is impossible anyway this is not such a terrible thing, and there is an escape, an impossible one, but still an excape.

You see there was a time when you really were without defense and thus could feel to the maximum pain level possible, the full impact of violence. That was when you were a child. But since intollerable pain is intollerable, there is the wonderful balm of amnesia. The price, of course for it, nothing is free, is violence, ie to become violent yourself. So you see, to understand violence, you have to remember, re-experience, your own becomming violent, and you can only do that by becomming violent yourself, viciously, savagely, insanely violent.

But you cannot do it in the cheap way, by acting it out in the world against your similarly infected brothers and sisters. That only adds to the violence of the world. It must be done in such a way as to bring to consciousness it's ancient origin, the memory of actual childhood events in a psychotheraputic environment.

Now if there were any real interest in the problem of violence, you could find such a setting easily. Do you know of one? So you see, the search for the answer to violence will go on out there, externally, in games, in TV, in the schools, etc etc etc, and never 'in here' in the memories of your own past experience, and so. day by day, we will march backward, to our own extinction in our own self hatred and only because all we ever really wanted was to be loved.

I saw this acted out in a modern rendition of this myth last night in the film, the Fifth Element. The perfect woman, open and without defense owing to her recent resurrection from a few living cells, is brought up to date on the history of humanity for the last five thousand years. She is devistated by what she discovers, the history of war and the development of nuclear weapons. The same thing happened to the perfect you. It took a few more years giving you a chance to supress it. May the Lover awaken you.

edit: there was a nice touch with the approaching evil growing in size feeding of the violent attempt to destroy it.
 
i dunno, but i feel more skilled with guns after long hours of POINT BLANK.

Oh yea, have you guys play the game SILENT HILL? I think thats the goriest and most violent game ever
 


<< Well seeing as some people with horrible childhoods become serial killers and some don't and people that had good childhoods can also become serial killers and others don't.. leads me to believe that violent behavior, or for that matter any behavior, is partially due to and hardwired into our genetics.. therefore someone can have a genetic predisposition to violence the same way as people do with drugs and alcohol abuse.. this might also allow said people to become swayed by virtual violence and wish to commit the true physical form of it.. >>



I Saw something on TV about this the other day. They found that violent criminals without a troubled childhood more than likely had a frontal lobe disorder that prevented them from keeping things in check. Those from bad homes though, typically act violently because of their upbringing. Very Interesting.
I like violent video games. I would beleive that killing someone virtually would be better than killing them in Real life, though some polititians disagree....
 
You hear this argument over and over again:

Joe Blow played some game or listened to some song, Joe Blow, shot however many of whoever . Therefore anyone who plays that game or listens to that song will commit the same crime.


This is not a valid argument

Same argument.

All of the men in prison eat mashed potatos, therefore if you eat mash potatos you will end up in prison.

What this type of argument neglects is the group who play the game or what ever that do NOT commit a crime. IF ALL of the people who played the game went out and commited a crime we would then have a problem.
 
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