POLL: Should people who live through botched suicide attempts be prosecuted for attempted murder or....

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: Deeko
This is the dumbest question I've ever seen asked.

Why? Dont you care about suicidal types enough to decide what should be done for them. Just saying something is stupid without giving a reason is stupid in itself.

They should be allowed to do whatever they damn please. Criminal charges? Absurd. Involuntary institutionalization, and for a YEAR? Ridiculous. Voluntary psychiatric help? Sure.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: KK
Why punish them, if they can't do it right the first time, let the idiots try it again. I have no sympathy for someone who tries to take their life.

True, there should be a noose in the jail cell for them when they are charged with assualt and battery.

 

[ArchCenturion]

Attempted murder charges for trying to kill yourself, seems along the same line of reasoning as the question, if you cloned yourself and had sex with it, would you be

A. Gay or
B. Playing with yourself

 

[cheesehead]

Originally posted by: KK
Why punish them, if they can't do it right the first time, let the idiots try it again. I have no sympathy for someone who tries to take their life.

Go to hell. Do not pass go. Do not collect redemption.


As someone who has both come close to suicide and had friends attempt to take their own lives (one of which was VERY lucky that her father knew poison control procedures), this is an insane question. People who try to commit suicide need counciling and help, not jail time.

Aside from the fact that taking away someone's life is hardly going to fix the problem, it's also going to make it impossible to "talk someone down" from attempting suicide. Furthermore, it's financially insane-putting someone in jail for 20 years costs hundreds of thousands of dollars.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

if people that are contemplating suicide and have tried to commit suicide are considered crazy then why do we need to keep them around? isn't suicide just darwin winning again

 

[Kalmah]

People go suicidal because they are in a state of mind that is most likely beyond anybody elses comprehension.

What should be done to help them should be taken care of based on their individual needs/problems.

Those who don't appear to give a sh!t are on the same level of 'idiocy' they seem to claim the suicidal people to be.

Not careing about another human life is different from not careing about your own how?

 

[desteffy]

why would you prosecute them for attempted murder!? That is totally idiotic. Murder is not the same as suicide.

 

[cheesehead]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
if people that are contemplating suicide and have tried to commit suicide are considered crazy then why do we need to keep them around? isn't suicide just darwin winning again

Because diabetics are fundamentally damaged, why don't we castrate them as infants?

A. It's a horrendous thing to do, and
B. It can be fixed with insulin, which is not that expensive nowadays.

The same applies to depression. Many suicidal people just have a chemical inbalance, or are going through a hard time in their life. For the former case, antidepresssants are in order; for the latter, they may help. Either way, counciling will at least help them return to a point of stability.

You've obviously never been suicidal, or known anyone who was. I generally try to avoid flame wars, but I'd like to kick you in the kneecaps. Sucidial people are still people, just people with a problem.

Oh, and if you're wondering-
I'm getting a vasectomy at 22. Depression sucks, and I'd rather adopt than put my offspring through the crap I've dealt with.

 

[ElFenix]

wait, i read suicide bombing attempt so i picked prosecuted for attempted murder.


obviously they should be prosecuted for attempted suicide instead.

 

[Mucho]

Neither, most suicide attempts are a cry for help.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Oh, and if you're wondering-
I'm getting a vasectomy at 22. Depression sucks, and I'd rather adopt than put my offspring through the crap I've dealt with.

Man that does suck. Hope everything turns out ok eventually.

 

[Praxis1452]

kill them make their dreams come true. And no I'm not joking.

 

[Baked]

If they fail the EMT should assist them in completing the task.

 

[GasX]

Typical that someone who is such a lower at life that they feel suicide is the answer would botch the job...

They should be given a copy of Stephen Covey's "7 Habits For Highly Effective People" and a bottle of pills.

 

[Elderly Newt]

*WTF* at the people saying to kill them jail them and good riddance. im pretty much at a loss for words as to why someone could ever possibly say something like that. They're people. They're going through a hard time. They didn't choose to be depressed. And guess what: it could happen to you. All you need is the right event(s) to occur.. and you could become depressed.

 

[MrPickins]

We already have the largest prison inmate population of any country. Why would you want to add more?
These people aren't criminal, they need help.

Mandatory institutionalization isn't the best answer either, because every person, and their situation is different. For any treatment to be sucessfull, it should be tailored to the patient.
Maybe treatment could be offered for free, but that might be too socialist for some.

 

[thomsbrain]

if you don't own the right to your own life, what kind of society is that?

heil, heil.

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
if you don't own the right to your own life, what kind of society is that?

heil, heil.

Our society? It's illegal atm.

Prosecution, btw.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
if you don't own the right to your own life, what kind of society is that?

heil, heil.

Our society? It's illegal atm.

Prosecution, btw.

What would you charge them with? Attempted self-murder?

 

[aidanjm]

suicide can be a rational choice. e.g., people with very painful terminal diseases, or diseases of old age. also some people with severe mental illnmesses like schizophrenia decide they have had enough and choose to kill themselves - do we as a society have a right to keep such people alive, when we don't have a cure for the illness that plagues them? Criminalising suicide seems stupid. I also wonder how a government can have amoral authority to prevent someone from taking their own life.