POLL: Should Howard Stern Be kicked off the air?

WHipLAsh13

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In the wake of the the Janet boob incident it appears that GW Bush and the FCC are on a witch hunt and right now thier setting their sights on Howard Stern. Do you think Howard Stern should be take off of the air. Now keep in mind that if you say yes what the consequences of doing so are. This is censorship and I do not think we really want to go down that road but lets hear your thoughts. Also keep in mind that what the FCC is trying to nail Howard on is something he said 3 years ago not any of the comments he said lately including the one that Clear Channel claims got him in hot water with them. I personally feel religion and State need absolute separation and ones religious beliefs should not not be forced upon to others and one should not use his political power to lead a religious crucade. Let the flaming begin.
 

Scarpozzi

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Howard Stern should be kicked off the air.....the skanks that come on his show can stay.
 

Jzero

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I vote "yes," but not because he is offensive, but because his "comedy" is stale and he's no longer funny.
Time to move on, Howie.
Actually, it's been time to move on for like 5 years now.
 

Modeps

Lifer
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It's not up to you, or me, or anyone but Clear Channel. They kicked him off, not the FCC.
 
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Hell no. He has been broadcasting essentially the same type of show since the early 80s, and only now is this subject coming to the fore. He has never committed any crimes, and his show is not obscene within the purvue of the law. If he is forced off the air, our country has lost its way.
 

TheGameIs21

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He shouldn't be kicked off the air. He can be fired from the stations that carry him or people can chose to not listen to his program.

This is far from the Janet bewbie thing. No one expected that kind of thing from the Superbowl. Everyone expect Howard Stern to be offensive.
 
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Originally posted by: Intake77
It's not up to you, or me, or anyone but Clear Channel. They kicked him off, not the FCC.

Note, though, that it happened the day before CC's head was to testify before Congress. CC has hired any number of other controversial hosts, including Michael Savage and Bubba the Love Sponge, and nearly Opie and Anthony too. CC even admitted that the firing was not because he did anything especially obscene, but because the company "changed its philosophy." Convenient that they changed the day before they were to appear to testify. I agree that CC has the right to make this move, but I think it's naive to say it was done independent of government intervention.
 

WHipLAsh13

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Originally posted by: Jzero
I vote "yes," but not because he is offensive, but because his "comedy" is stale and he's no longer funny.
Time to move on, Howie.
Actually, it's been time to move on for like 5 years now.

This Poll isn't about a popularity contest on whether or not you think he is funny. It is about whether or not you think he should be taken off of the air because he is offensive and should not have the right to broadcast his so called trash....
 

T2T III

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I don't listen to much Stern anymore. However, I don't think the proper response is to kick him off the air. As listeners, we can choose what we want/don't want to listen to.

A local country music station in my area just gave their two morning DJs a "day off" because they said that Garth Brooks had "man boobs." I mean, this process of monitoring the radio waves - and then suspending DJs for very minor things that are said - is getting a little out of hand.

Hopefully, some slack is given down the road - because, where we're headed with censorship at the moment is not a good thing.

 

EngenZerO

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from what he said today the gov't is turning into "religious zealots", and I agree. What happen to free speech and keeping a seperation of church and state.
 

Linflas

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Before parroting Howards talking points from this mornings show you may want to do some background research on your own. Mel Karmazin goes in front of a congressional committee and rightly or wrongly promises that Viacom/Infinity are going to more closely monitor their programming. He then issues a very public statement that Viacom/Infinity will not "be the poster child for indecency". They further take actions against most of their affiliates to put this policy in place except for Howard Stern who seemingly starts going out of his way to test the policy. The letter from the Kansas Senator to Mel Karmazin is simply asking the question that given Mel's previous statements on the record regarding these matters why is Howard Stern still on Infinity owned stations? Given the very public nature of Karmazins previous statments it is a valid question. Stern clearly is operating under different rules from every other radio show currently on Infinity.

 

EngenZerO

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Before parroting Howards talking points from this mornings show you may want to do some background research on your own. Mel Karmazin goes in front of a congressional committee and rightly or wrongly promises that Viacom/Infinity are going to more closely monitor their programming. He then issues a very public statement that Viacom/Infinity will not "be the poster child for indecency". They further take actions against most of their affiliates to put this policy in place except for Howard Stern who seemingly starts going out of his way to test the policy. The letter from the Kansas Senator to Mel Karmazin is simply asking the question that given Mel's previous statements on the record regarding these matters why is Howard Stern still on Infinity owned stations? Given the very public nature of Karmazins previous statments it is a valid question. Stern clearly is operating under different rules from every other radio show currently on Infinity.


he is continuing the same show he has always done.
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: EngenZerO
Originally posted by: Linflas
Before parroting Howards talking points from this mornings show you may want to do some background research on your own. Mel Karmazin goes in front of a congressional committee and rightly or wrongly promises that Viacom/Infinity are going to more closely monitor their programming. He then issues a very public statement that Viacom/Infinity will not "be the poster child for indecency". They further take actions against most of their affiliates to put this policy in place except for Howard Stern who seemingly starts going out of his way to test the policy. The letter from the Kansas Senator to Mel Karmazin is simply asking the question that given Mel's previous statements on the record regarding these matters why is Howard Stern still on Infinity owned stations? Given the very public nature of Karmazins previous statments it is a valid question. Stern clearly is operating under different rules from every other radio show currently on Infinity.


he is continuing the same show he has always done.
Exactly. Mel Karmazin should have thought this through before he went on bended knee before Congress and then did his little publicity stunt edict. He cannot have it both ways.
 

Ornery

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Originally posted by: Intake77
It's not up to you, or me, or anyone but Clear Channel. They kicked him off, not the FCC.
OMG, somebody on this looney board making sense! :Q

"This is censorship..."

Notice that when callers use the word fvck, he jumps all over them. Is that censorship? Would you prefer they be allowed to say and do just anything? Where would you draw the line? These are public airwaves with standards agreed upon. Howard still has freedom of speech on several outlets, but this one currently has restrictions, and he knows it! All I know is, if I have to play by the rules, then so does he.
 

WHipLAsh13

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He also has not violated any FCC regulations in the last 3 years. So he is following the rules set forth by the FCC. Also the only reason he is being brought to court on that violation 3 years ago is that they changed the rules and then went back into his tapes and found the violation. So he is playing by the rules as you say.
 
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Originally posted by: Linflas
Exactly. Mel Karmazin should have thought this through before he went on bended knee before Congress and then did his little publicity stunt edict. He cannot have it both ways.

I agree with that, but it certainly seems like the major media outlets have gotten so gun-shy about the FCC and Congress that they all want to appear to be "cleaning up the airwaves." It's hardly admirable, but since the FCC has to approve all their licensing and acquisitions, Mel K and other CEOs are over a barrel.

 

EngenZerO

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Originally posted by: Ornery
Originally posted by: Intake77
It's not up to you, or me, or anyone but Clear Channel. They kicked him off, not the FCC.
OMG, somebody on this looney board making sense! :Q

"This is censorship..."

Notice that when callers use the word fvck, he jumps all over them. Is that censorship? Would you prefer they be allowed to say and do just anything? Where would you draw the line? These are public airwaves with standards agreed upon. Howard still has freedom of speech on several outlets, but this one currently has restrictions, and he knows it! All I know is, if I have to play by the rules, then so does he.

yah, but isnt Clearchannel and the FCC good buds?
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: WHipLAsh13
He also has not violated any FCC regulations in the last 3 years. So he is following the rules set forth by the FCC. Also the only reason he is being brought to court on that violation 3 years ago is that they changed the rules and then went back into his tapes and found the violation. So he is playing by the rules as you say.

Not true. This is really the whole problem with all of this. The rules are so vague that no one knows what they are from day to day. This whole fight has been taking place under the public radar for 10 years now. It is not a Bush issue, a Clinton issue, a Republican issue, or a Democrat issue. They have all been involved in one way or another in the so called "culture wars".
 

EngenZerO

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Originally posted by: Ornery
WTF is the difference? Rules are rules...

but he hasnt broke any rules yet. ClearChannel (earlier this week) kicked him off, w/o knowing any of FCC violations (stern says these should be announced possibly today).
 

Dedpuhl

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damned Nipplegate is ruining everything

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I don't listen to his radio show, but I watch him on E! all the time. LONG LIVE THE STERN!