POLL:: Republicans: If you HAD to pick a democratic candidate, who'd you pick?

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burnedout

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Clark on Reagan:

"We were really helped when President Ronald Reagan came in. I remember non-commissioned officers who were going to retire and they re-enlisted because they believed in President Reagan."
I also remember those days. Morale increased dramatically in the ranks.
 

boran

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Originally posted by: Fencer128


Do you know anyone who worked for local government under Clinton? My US friends who did don't have a great deal of love for the man!

Cheers,

Andy

well, no, the only americans I know are in the navy (USS Hue City CG66) and their relatives, and like I said, I dont live in the US so I only have the external vision on things.



 

maluckey

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I would vote for Edwards in a moment if Bush wasn't running. If he dropped out, then Lieberman, though I beleive he's a bit weak as far as military vision goes. After the Gore fiasco, Lieberman won't likely let himself be used as a puppet again. Once burned twice shy and all.

 

Ferocious

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Originally posted by: alchemize
I'd vote for a democratic candidate if they offered a) a substantial and comprehensive response to terrorism and b) a fiscally responsible agenda

Lieberman probably comes the closest.

Well part b) eliminates nearly all modern Republicans. Part A) is unclear since we were directly attacked via terroism under Bush as President....not a Democrat.

Recalling my younger days when I used to nearly always vote Republican....I'd either vote for Edwards or Clark. Though any true Republican should vote against Bush as a matter of principle if for no other reason...just like some Democrats who voted for Nader in 2000.

 

DT4K

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Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: JackStorm
Originally posted by: KK


The other ones, esp. Dean, change their views based upon what they think will get them more votes.

Agreed. This is what I don't like about Dean. I'd never vote for someone like that. I think I even pointed it out in one of my posts here. Not 100% sure though. Hell I'd vote for that loony Kucinich over Dean any day, at lest he stands for what he belives in and doesn't change his views on a whim. And we all know that man (Kucinich) is unelectible.

Examples?

"The energy of the stars becomes us. We become the energy of the stars. Stardust and spirit unite, and we begin: One with the universe. Whole and holy. From one source, endless creative energy, bursting forth, kinetic, elemental. We, the earth, air, water, and fire source of nearly 15 billion years of cosmic spiraling" (Dennis Kucinich, June 9, 2002).

"We're asking our countries' leaders to understand that the world is undivided. We're asking our countries' leaders to see the world as an interconnected whole. We're asking our countries' leaders to take a holistic view of the world and to allow the globe, the sphere of the Earth herself, to exist free from an assault from space" (Dennis Kucinich, Feb. 23, 2002).

"After I lost the [mayoral] election in Cleveland in 1979, I moved to California for a while. I actually remember walking in the area around L.A. known as MacArthur Park, and I was thinking of that song and thinking of the lyrics where they talk about 'Someone left the cake out in the rain. It took so long to make it.' And it goes on, raising the question of whether I'll ever have that recipe again."

"I am running for President of the United States to enable the Goddess of Peace to encircle within her arms all the children of this country and all the children of the world."

"As President of the United States, I will make affirmative action the watch word of the administration... If the Supreme Court goes in the other direction, if the Supreme Court goes in a direction of failing to understand this nation has such a distance to go on matters of affirmative action, then what I will do as President of the United States is to write a series of executive orders that will enshrine affirmative in housing, in education, in every area of our economy..."

"we gotta take the pharmaceutical companies out of health care"--
 

MonstaThrilla

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Sorry, I was asking for examples where Dean changed his views based upon what he thought would get him more votes. I know that you're looking for someone to burn with scathing quotes after last night's embarrassment (I feel your pain, bud), but its not gonna be me this time.

The only example I can think of is the death penalty, where he was against it as a Governor, but recently said he'd support it for cop killers and child killers. That begs the question: how many cop killers and child killers were found guilty during his tenure in Vermont? I'd venture to guess none.
 

DT4K

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Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Sorry, I was asking for examples where Dean changed his views based upon what he thought would get him more votes. I know that you're looking for someone to burn with scathing quotes after last night's embarrassment (I feel your pain, bud), but its not gonna be me this time.

The only example I can think of is the death penalty, where he was against it as a Governor, but recently said he'd support it for cop killers and child killers. That begs the question: how many cop killers and child killers were found guilty during his tenure in Vermont? I'd venture to guess none.

LOL.
I just saw the part about Kucinich being a loony.
<--- returns to searching for scathing quotes. Must get even, must get even, bwahahaha.
 

DT4K

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Iraq:
"Saddam must be disarmed, but with a multilateral force under the auspices of the United Nations. If the U.N. in the end chooses not to enforce its own resolutions, then the U.S. should give Saddam 30 to 60 days to disarm, and if he doesn't, unilateral action is a regrettable, but unavoidable, choice." (Howard Dean, February 2003)

"I do oppose it, because I don't believe there's any cause for unilateral and preemptive intervention in Iraq. Iraq is not of immediate threat to the United States" (Howard Dean, March 2003)


North Korea:
"I concur with most of the president's policy on North Korea" (Howard Dean, Jan 6, 2003)

"North Korea has become the biggest threat to peace in East Asia in half a century...U.S. policy has been incoherent, inconsistent and dangerously disengaged." (Howard Dean, February 2003)


Death Penalty:
"I don't support the death penalty for two reasons. One, you might have the wrong guy, and two, the state is like a parent. Parents who smoke cigarettes can't really tell their children not to smoke and be taken seriously. If a state tells you not to murder people, a state shouldn't be in the business of taking people's lives." (Howard Dean, 1992)

"the death penalty would be a just punishment for certain, especially heinous crimes, such as the murder of a child or the murder of a police officer. The events of Sept. 11 convinced me that terrorists also deserve the ultimate punishment." (Howard Dean, 2003)

Ummm, since when does the nature of the crime have anything to do with the certainty of who did it or with whether the state should be in the business of taking lives.


Social Security:
"The way to balance the budget, Dean said, is for Congress to cut Social Security, move the retirement age to 70, cut defense, Medicare and veterans pensions, while the states cut almost everything else." (Howard Dean, March 1995)

"I have never favored Social Security retirement at the age of 70, nor do I favor one of 68." (Howard Dean, August 2003)