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POLL: Public breastfeeding? I say no.

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Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: MrPickins
you need to have a large amount of people on your side. It has been proven in this thread that you do not.

Actually there is a very large number of people on my side.

I'm sure that thousands of people worldwide have sex with animals, too, but that doesn't make it any less disgusting to the rest of the population. Or any more normal of a stance.

OK, now I'm just stirring the pot, so let's add something a bit more meaningful:

You're free to think what you like. If your mores don't line up with the rest of society, either learn to live with it and not complain, write bad jokes, or move to a country where they do, and make fun of all the backwards perverts from back home.

As long as you're able to identify your opinions as mere social quirks, and not moral absolutes, there's no problem.
 
Originally posted by: CKent

Other posters guilty of this childish behavior have either apologized for it or otherwise didn't pursue it. You seem to be really caught up in the entitled parent phenomenon, since you're unable to admit imperfection and insist on claiming you didn't do what you did. Maybe it's the fact you have 3 of them.

Certainly not all of them have, and in fact, I initially attempted an apolgy to you for any perceived insult. I wouldn't offer the same now however.

Here's another post throwing out epithets and insults. The behavior you condemn in others and justify in yourself. You have not yet once posted any information which supports your claims and you have repeatedly impugned parenthood generally and told me to grow up. Take your own advice.

If you're thinking that I'm about to insult you, it's because I am. As Popeye has said, "I've had alls I can stands, I can't stands no more".

You're acting like a hopped up adolescent with delusions of persecution.

While you may not be entirely alone in your opinions, you are alone in being one of the most irritating and worthless forum members it has been my misfortune to encounter. You're rude, conceited, self-abosrbed and petty.

Whereas you stated you were done with this some time ago and then proceeded to froth at the mouth again, I am well and truly done with you now.

I leave you with a very hearty go fvck yourself, you ignorant self-absorbed fool.
 
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
I am a brickwall with a breastfeeding spraying whipped out bacteria environment harming eye destroying sexual inneundo complex. My intellect and ego are socially constructed as to become threatened by a 0 1 logic gate interaction with external stimuli (humans and breasts).

MMMM. brickwall, folkways, mores and other sociological/psychological grist for the mill to grind into a fine round robin (sp) argument that has individuals entrenched in their own belief structures thus pointlessly arguing .... ..... ..... The sky is pretty tonight.

You misspelled 'external'. And having this much fun is far from pointless... smiling is good for you 🙂

I misspelled external? Nope, sorry wrong. :laugh:
Smiling in an sarcastic self ego grandizing manner or smiling at the joy of breathing and gazing at the stars in the night sky? HMMMM

Edit: Don't you find it interesting that your first response to my post is to point out a perceived spelling error (in which you are incorrect)? Do you wonder why that would matter in any way to the underlying theme to the post.
Can you respond to my other posts about the obfuscation of the breastfeeding issue by equating breastfeeding and defacation/urinating in public? I would be interested in your correlative constructs.
 
Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
I am a brickwall with a breastfeeding spraying whipped out bacteria environment harming eye destroying sexual inneundo complex. My intellect and ego are socially constructed as to become threatened by a 0 1 logic gate interaction with external stimuli (humans and breasts).

MMMM. brickwall, folkways, mores and other sociological/psychological grist for the mill to grind into a fine round robin (sp) argument that has individuals entrenched in their own belief structures thus pointlessly arguing .... ..... ..... The sky is pretty tonight.

You misspelled 'external'. And having this much fun is far from pointless... smiling is good for you 🙂

I misspelled external? Nope, sorry wrong. :laugh:
Smiling in an sarcastic self ego grandizing manner or smiling at the joy of breathing and gazing at the stars in the night sky? HMMMM

Edit: Don't you find it interesting that your first response to my post is to point out a perceived spelling error (in which you are incorrect)? Do you wonder why that would matter in any way to the underlying theme to the post.
Can you respond to my other posts about the obfuscation of the breastfeeding issue by equating breastfeeding and defacation/urinating in public? I would be interested in your correlative constructs.

:laugh:
 
Originally posted by: djheater
You're acting like a hopped up adolescent with delusions of persecution.
You're acting like a starving fish.

Originally posted by: djheater
I leave you with a very hearty go fvck yourself, you ignorant self-absorbed fool.

Thanks, it's nice to see you take an honest childish dig at me rather than your previous, hesitant insults which you were quick to claim were nothing of the sort. I always appreciate honesty - better late than never.
 
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Mods: Thanks for letting this one go as long as it did. I have been entertained for days by this conversation. 🙂

Not nearly as much as I have. I'm not particularly fond of talking to extra-thick brick walls, there's gotta be something keeping me posting 😉

Ok, I stand corrected. I've been entertained as much as possible without making false claims and accusations in an attempt to stir the pot.

I mean, who would do that kind of thing? 😕

:laugh:
 
I wonder how many ppl voting no were breastfed?

Personally, i never even really notice public breastfeeding...unless she's super hot, hey they're still boobs.
 
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Mods: Thanks for letting this one go as long as it did. I have been entertained for days by this conversation. 🙂

Not nearly as much as I have. I'm not particularly fond of talking to extra-thick brick walls, there's gotta be something keeping me posting 😉

Ok, I stand corrected. I've been entertained as much as possible without making false claims and accusations in an attempt to stir the pot.

I mean, who would do that kind of thing? 😕

:laugh:

You would and have.
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Oh no boobies!!! Raise the status to orange alert!

American's are such pussies when it comes to nudity. Grow up. It's a female breast. Let's not make a world-ending clamor about it like the SuperBowl incident.

You forget how many fat Americans there are.

EDIT: Other people are saying things like it's only natural. Yeah, so is urinating. Don't want to see that out of a restroom, now do you?
 
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Mods: Thanks for letting this one go as long as it did. I have been entertained for days by this conversation. 🙂

Not nearly as much as I have. I'm not particularly fond of talking to extra-thick brick walls, there's gotta be something keeping me posting 😉

Ok, I stand corrected. I've been entertained as much as possible without making false claims and accusations in an attempt to stir the pot.

I mean, who would do that kind of thing? 😕

:laugh:

You would and have.

Thus, the amusement continues. :laugh:
Name a false claim I made.

Here are a few of yours (in chronological order):

"There are high quality, affordable breast pumps out there, I used to work in a store which sold them in fact. And I'm sure you've heard of bottles. Now combine the two and what do you have? That's right, the same thing, but faster, cleaner and in accordance with societal norms."
You've ceded this point

"Probably 80% of votes are from virginal teenage boys who want to see breasts in public so they have something to fap to when they get home."
Attacking the poll because it doesn't go your way is easier than providing your own.

"It's like there's some kind of law that having kids entitles people to do whatever they want, whenever they want, the rest of the world be damned."
Who ever said that, or anything close to that? If anything, you have shown yourself to feel more entitled than the parents.

"I could respond to your trolling with more logic and valid points, but you've ignored them thus far and I have no reason to believe that will change."
Wait, what valid points have you made and actually backed up with logic? 😕

"Society is currently largely against public breastfeeding and urination/defacation, that will have to be good enough for me. "
Again, proven wrong. (although I belive you ceded this one also)

"I've angered you simply by not agreeing with you, but I remained civil and stayed on topic until you threw that out the window. You, on the other hand, have gone off topic to make personal attacks in an attempt to get an angry response. If that's not trolling, god only knows what is."
The only personal attacks from djheater are in your head. He only suggested the implications of your opinion, and wished to discuss them. You chose that the implications fit.

"Further, it's illegal under public decency/nudity laws"
Ceded

"There's no need, only those favoring change need to craft a compelling argument for said change. With reasoning like "you're an idiot", "you're a pig", "you need 2 gro up liek look @ urope they r so kewl" and "z0mg b00b13z!!1111", it's no wonder it still mostly isn't allowed in our society. But keep trying! "
Wait, who was favoring change? Those were my arguments? It's still mostly isn't allowed? 😕

"Show too much skin or a nip and it's public indecency."
Again, even in your state, this is proven wrong. (in the context of breastfeeding)


"The key difference is that my own comfort doesn't break social norms and potentially laws."
Which norms and laws again?

"At least the right to breastfeed doesn't override public indecency laws here, according to your first link (it only does in 15 states), so women exercising their right by letting it all hang out here could face legal trouble. "
/cough

"The days of voluntarily respecting the rules of society are behind us, I think we'll need to start legislating if we don't want to see the current trend continue and worsen."
What rules of society are being disrespected?

"Actually there is a very large number of people on my side. "
You never did show that.

"You shouldn't be, I was poking fun at you and the ~20% of respondants who felt the same way "
Oh, how well you know me. :roll:

"You misspelled 'external'. "
Inane, but funny nonetheless.

"I always appreciate honesty"
Then why do you continue to lie to yourself about the amount of people with the same opinion as you?

Really, you make this too easy.
It's still fun though.

Come on everybody, beat the horse! 😉
 
"Most women are discreet about it"

The definition of discrete is not concrete, and your claim that "most" women are has no basis.

Keep going hypocrite 🙂

ps. Kudos on spending your day going through the thread picking out quotes, I would follow suit but that would be too much like work and not fun at all.
 
Originally posted by: JDrake
formula ftw?

Principle breast milk ingredients
Immunoglobulins:
Lactoferrin:
Lysozyme; (the horror it helps promote healthy bacteria in the intestines)
Growth Factors: Human breast milk specifically encourages the growth of lactobacillaceae, which are helpful bacteria that can inhibit many of the disease-causing gram-negative bacteria and parasites. There is a striking difference between the bacteria found in the guts of breast and formula-fed infants. Breast-fed infants have a level of lactobacillus that is typically 10 times greater than that of formula-fed infants.
Carnitine:
DHA & ARA:

Formula is nowhere near the nutritious value that breastmilk is for the infant. Many studies have been done demonstrating the efficacy of breastmilk versus formula.
 
Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
I am a brickwall with a breastfeeding spraying whipped out bacteria environment harming eye destroying sexual inneundo complex. My intellect and ego are socially constructed as to become threatened by a 0 1 logic gate interaction with external stimuli (humans and breasts).

MMMM. brickwall, folkways, mores and other sociological/psychological grist for the mill to grind into a fine round robin (sp) argument that has individuals entrenched in their own belief structures thus pointlessly arguing .... ..... ..... The sky is pretty tonight.

You misspelled 'external'. And having this much fun is far from pointless... smiling is good for you 🙂

I misspelled external? Nope, sorry wrong. :laugh:
Smiling in an sarcastic self ego grandizing manner or smiling at the joy of breathing and gazing at the stars in the night sky? HMMMM

Edit: Don't you find it interesting that your first response to my post is to point out a perceived spelling error (in which you are incorrect)? Do you wonder why that would matter in any way to the underlying theme to the post.
Can you respond to my other posts about the obfuscation of the breastfeeding issue by equating breastfeeding and defacation/urinating in public? I would be interested in your correlative constructs.

MMM quoting my own post because my questions were ignored by CKent. Please answer my questions and could you tell me that you were incorrect in telling me I misspelled 'external'? Please respond to my nonattacking post. Thank you
 
Originally posted by: CKent
"Most women are discreet about it"

The definition of discrete is not concrete, and your claim that "most" women are has no basis.

Keep going hypocrite 🙂

ps. Kudos on spending your day going through the thread picking out quotes, I would follow suit but that would be too much like work and not fun at all.

If it is not concrete, as you say, then it is subjective. Thus an opinion. And, opinions can not be false, by the very definition of the word. :laugh:

I guess what I should have said was: "The majority of people believe that the majority of women are modest about their breasts." While unsubstantiated as of yet, I'm fairly certain it is not false.
You can keep calling me names if it makes you feel better.

FWIW I spent about 10 minutes of my sick day quoting you, and I did find it amusing.
 
Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
I am a brickwall with a breastfeeding spraying whipped out bacteria environment harming eye destroying sexual inneundo complex. My intellect and ego are socially constructed as to become threatened by a 0 1 logic gate interaction with external stimuli (humans and breasts).

MMMM. brickwall, folkways, mores and other sociological/psychological grist for the mill to grind into a fine round robin (sp) argument that has individuals entrenched in their own belief structures thus pointlessly arguing .... ..... ..... The sky is pretty tonight.

You misspelled 'external'. And having this much fun is far from pointless... smiling is good for you 🙂

I misspelled external? Nope, sorry wrong. :laugh:
Smiling in an sarcastic self ego grandizing manner or smiling at the joy of breathing and gazing at the stars in the night sky? HMMMM

Edit: Don't you find it interesting that your first response to my post is to point out a perceived spelling error (in which you are incorrect)? Do you wonder why that would matter in any way to the underlying theme to the post.
Can you respond to my other posts about the obfuscation of the breastfeeding issue by equating breastfeeding and defacation/urinating in public? I would be interested in your correlative constructs.

MMM quoting my own post because my questions were ignored by CKent. Please answer my questions and could you tell me that you were incorrect in telling me I misspelled 'external'? Please respond to my nonattacking post. Thank you

He doesn't bother to answer questions. It was amusing to banter with him at first, but he's just proven himself to be nothing but a tiresome troll at this point. Ranting about others not providing 'facts' but conveniently providing absolutely none to back up his own poorly thought out assertations.
 
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
I am a brickwall with a breastfeeding spraying whipped out bacteria environment harming eye destroying sexual inneundo complex. My intellect and ego are socially constructed as to become threatened by a 0 1 logic gate interaction with external stimuli (humans and breasts).

MMMM. brickwall, folkways, mores and other sociological/psychological grist for the mill to grind into a fine round robin (sp) argument that has individuals entrenched in their own belief structures thus pointlessly arguing .... ..... ..... The sky is pretty tonight.

You misspelled 'external'. And having this much fun is far from pointless... smiling is good for you 🙂

I misspelled external? Nope, sorry wrong. :laugh:
Smiling in an sarcastic self ego grandizing manner or smiling at the joy of breathing and gazing at the stars in the night sky? HMMMM

Edit: Don't you find it interesting that your first response to my post is to point out a perceived spelling error (in which you are incorrect)? Do you wonder why that would matter in any way to the underlying theme to the post.
Can you respond to my other posts about the obfuscation of the breastfeeding issue by equating breastfeeding and defacation/urinating in public? I would be interested in your correlative constructs.

MMM quoting my own post because my questions were ignored by CKent. Please answer my questions and could you tell me that you were incorrect in telling me I misspelled 'external'? Please respond to my nonattacking post. Thank you

He doesn't bother to answer questions. It was amusing to banter with him at first, but he's just proven himself to be nothing but a tiresome troll at this point. Ranting about others not providing 'facts' but conveniently providing absolutely none to back up his own poorly thought out assertations.

I think as a corollary to the whole breastfeeding in public debate I will go see Snakes on a Plane. Don't ask me how one is a corollary to the other because logic left this thread and was replaced by ad hominens, strawman arguments and emotional deconstructionism. MMMMM Gollum .... MMMM (Sees breasts) My precious .... MMMM Gollum Gollum
 
Originally posted by: Chryso
If you don't want to see it you don't have to look.

you don't always have to knowingly look to see it. I was at applebees with one of my buddies and his hippy wife. She wipped it all the way out, wasn't discreet about it at all and it made all of use except for her, her husband and the baby uncomfortable. And waiters coming around the corner couldn't help but see it without trying to.
 
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