POLL: Public breastfeeding? I say no.

[CKent]

Originally posted by: MasonLuke
When the baby is hungry, the mother has a duty to feed him/her anywhere anytime.

Same goes for when my bladder is full then. Hope you're wearing cleats, it's gonna get slippery 😎

 

[djheater]

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: MasonLuke
When the baby is hungry, the mother has a duty to feed him/her anywhere anytime.

Same goes for when my bladder is full then. Hope you're wearing cleats, it's gonna get slippery 😎

We've established that public urination is a crime and breastfeeding isn't.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: MasonLuke
When the baby is hungry, the mother has a duty to feed him/her anywhere anytime.

Same goes for when my bladder is full then. Hope you're wearing cleats, it's gonna get slippery 😎

We've established that public urination is a crime and breastfeeding isn't.

Time to change the world :beer:...:beer::beer:....:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: MasonLuke
When the baby is hungry, the mother has a duty to feed him/her anywhere anytime.

Same goes for when my bladder is full then. Hope you're wearing cleats, it's gonna get slippery 😎

We've established that public urination is a crime and breastfeeding isn't.

Time to change the world :beer:...:beer::beer:....:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:

You can try. In fact, I welcome you to. Everyone should try to do what they feel would make the world a better place.

I say try, because to actually change the world, you need to have a large amount of people on your side. It has been proven in this thread that you do not.

But please, try. You are more than allowed your own opinion. Just remember, it is no more important than any one else's opinion.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: MrPickins
you need to have a large amount of people on your side. It has been proven in this thread that you do not.

Actually there is a very large number of people on my side.

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: MrPickins
Again I ask, who lets it all hang out? Are you still thinking about that? That scenario is mostly in your head.

Originally posted by: bluemax
Discretion. I worked in a store where the woman plopped herself down in the middle of the floor by the ink cartridges, whipped her shirt up and proceeded to let her 3-to-4-year old nurse while dancing around. I was horrified.
...
Dancing.... I still can't believe it....

You'd think someone embracing hard data so heartily wouldn't say "most" women are discreet and leave it at that even when called on it. But you trolls tend to be hypocrites.

So you have one example. One. How many babies are breastfed at a given time in the U.S.? I'd guess several hundred thousand, at least. So one out of that many. Kinda proves my point, huh?

As I already told you, my data is personal experience. I know for a fact that what I said about the modesty of most women is true.

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: MrPickins
Actually, it sounds like they do bypass decency laws, considering breastfeeding women are allowed to show a nipple.

From the first link:

"Fifteen states exempt breastfeeding from public indecency laws (Alaska, Florida, Illinois, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Utah, Virginia, Washington and Wisconsin).""

Read more closely:

NY Penal Laws § 245.01, 245.02§ 245.01. Exposure of a personA person is guilty of exposure if he appears in a public place in such a manner that the private or intimate parts of his body are unclothed or exposed. For purposes of this section, the private or intimate parts of a female person shall include that portion of the breast which is below the top of the areola. This section shall not apply to the breastfeeding of infants or to any person entertaining or performing in a play, exhibition, show or entertainment.§ 245.02. Promoting the exposure of a personA person is guilty of promoting the exposure of a person when he knowingly conducts, maintains, owns, manages, operates or furnishes any public premise or place where a person in a public place appears in such a manner that the private or intimate parts of his body are unclothed or exposed. For purposes of this section, the private or intimate parts of a female person shall include that portion of the breast which is below the top of the areola. This section shall not apply to the breastfeeding of infants or to any person entertaining or performing in a play, exhibition, show or entertainment.NY CLS Civ R § 79-e (Article 7

Whether the authors of the website counted it or not, there is your specific exemption.

In either case, that is a minor point. The main point is your opinion is the minority, yet you still feel as though it should be imposed on everyone. Why is that?

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: MrPickins
you need to have a large amount of people on your side. It has been proven in this thread that you do not.

Actually there is a very large number of people on my side.

Have you proven that? Because all the evidence that has been presented in this thread shows that you do not.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: MrPickins
As I already told you, my data is personal experience. I know for a fact that what I said about the modesty of most women is true.

I couldn't have made my point any better, thanks for the hand 🙂

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: MrPickins
As I already told you, my data is personal experience. I know for a fact that what I said about the modesty of most women is true.

I couldn't have made my point any better, thanks for the hand 🙂

Personal experience is a type of empirical data, one which I am fully confident in. You can choose to disbelieve it if you want, that is fine, but to accuse me of lacking evidence is absurd. You have presented nothing in this thread other than opinion, and have made wild, and often false claims. Yes, false. You never did address that.

I'm not sure what point I made for you, as I'm not sure anymore what your point is. You no longer discuss your view, you just continue to shoot down the ideas others present to you. This debate is one sided, and not in the way that you think.

 

[alejandroAT]

I am squeezing into this conversations because i am not from the states so i may provide a third point of view culture-wise.

there are a lot of things humans need to do but don't because of current social "regulations" on do's and dont's.


People need to fart and burp because if they dont it could lead to serious medical complications. But most ppl choose not to do it in public because it offends others. We all live together crammed in big cities and the only way we can manage this is by respecting others around us.

I agree that a baby must feed regularly, but in my country (greece) women just dont do that in public. In the whole muslim world too. But in a strange fashion, babies not only do not starve , but they grow to become very healthy people . It is not nudity that offends, its the context of nudity. I consider the rear end of young ladies to be a beautiful thing indeed, but when the lady in question wears a low crotch pair of pants exposing her crack, sorry but that not only isnt sexy but it reminds me of the fat plummer bending over your sink to fix the leak. It is the context that offends.

So, i respect women around me and decide to wear a shirt while siting on the dinner table even though the temperature is 40C (around 100F) because i do not want to impose my body hair and belly on them whilst eating. My girlfriend likes my hair and my belly and finds them sexy but the next woman might find it disgusting escpecially if she is eating. So i DONT want to see a woman , any woman, taking her breast out to feed her baby while i do certain things. I do not want to witness this in a restaurant or while i do my shopping. On the other hand, i wouldnt mind if we were at a park and i could just walk away or look somewhere else. It is the context of nudity that offends and not nudity itslef. Again, if you go to a nudist beach you could just stand naked with a friend talking politics and you wouldnt mind the sight of his ding-dong. But i deffinatelly wouldnt want to have my bosse's johnson in my face at the office while he briefs me on the next project!

To all you american women who say that you do not understand men that get offended by public breastfeeding, i say chill. There are A LOT of women around the world that do not breastfeed in public and their kids grow up to be just fine. Even better, most of them grow up to be less homicidal and violent and less fat than your average american 🙂.

On the other hand, dudes chill also! just look the other way. But if it you are so unlucky as to witness such an incident whilst eating at a restaurant then i m with you all the way. In any other case just walk away, america is big enough.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: MrPickins
As I already told you, my data is personal experience. I know for a fact that what I said about the modesty of most women is true.

I couldn't have made my point any better, thanks for the hand 🙂

Personal experience is a type of empirical data, one which I am fully confident in. You can choose to disbelieve it if you want, that is fine, but to accuse me of lacking evidence is absurd. You have presented nothing in this thread other than opinion, and have made wild, and often false claims. Yes, false. You never did address that.

I'm not sure what point I made for you, as I'm not sure anymore what your point is. You no longer discuss your view, you just continue to shoot down the ideas others present to you. This debate is one sided, and not in the way that you think.

We finished a while back, I'm not really trying anymore. But thanks for the entertainment.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: alejandroAT

I am squeezing into this conversations because i am not from the states so i may provide a third point of view culture-wise.

there are a lot of things humans need to do but don't because of current social "regulations" on do's and dont's.


People need to fart and burp because if they dont it could lead to serious medical complications. But most ppl choose not to do it in public because it offends others. We all live together crammed in big cities and the only way we can manage this is by respecting others around us.

I agree that a baby must feed regularly, but in my country (greece) women just dont do that in public. In the whole muslim world too. But in a strange fashion, babies not only do not starve , but they grow to become very healthy people . It is not nudity that offends, its the context of nudity. I consider the rear end of young ladies to be a beautiful thing indeed, but when the lady in question wears a low crotch pair of pants exposing her crack, sorry but that not only isnt sexy but it reminds me of the fat plummer bending over your sink to fix the leak. It is the context that offends.

So, i respect women around me and decide to wear a shirt while siting on the dinner table even though the temperature is 40C (around 100F) because i do not want to impose my body hair and belly on them whilst eating. My girlfriend likes my hair and my belly and finds them sexy but the next woman might find it disgusting escpecially if she is eating. So i DONT want to see a woman , any woman, taking her breast out to feed her baby while i do certain things. I do not want to witness this in a restaurant or while i do my shopping. On the other hand, i wouldnt mind if we were at a park and i could just walk away or look somewhere else. It is the context of nudity that offends and not nudity itslef. Again, if you go to a nudist beach you could just stand naked with a friend talking politics and you wouldnt mind the sight of his ding-dong. But i deffinatelly wouldnt want to have my bosse's johnson in my face at the office while he briefs me on the next project!

To all you american women who say that you do not understand men that get offended by public breastfeeding, i say chill. There are A LOT of women around the world that do not breastfeed in public and their kids grow up to be just fine. Even better, most of them grow up to be less homicidal and violent and less fat than your average american 🙂.

On the other hand, dudes chill also! just look the other way. But if it you are so unlucky as to witness such an incident whilst eating at a restaurant then i m with you all the way. In any other case just walk away, america is big enough.

But... but... wtf???/? urope is like, totally like, a utopia n stuffz!!1111 wimmenz goes around w/o tops bcuz their k3wl n where prudez, zomg topless... zomg boobiez!!1!111 *ejaculates on monitor*

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: CKent

But... but... wtf???/? urope is like, totally like, a utopia n stuffz!!1111 wimmenz goes around w/o tops bcuz their k3wl n where prudez, zomg topless... zomg boobiez!!1!111 *ejaculates on monitor*

wow. I am embarrased for you.

 

[alejandroAT]

hahahaahahahaah....take it easy ckent

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: CKent

But... but... wtf???/? urope is like, totally like, a utopia n stuffz!!1111 wimmenz goes around w/o tops bcuz their k3wl n where prudez, zomg topless... zomg boobiez!!1!111 *ejaculates on monitor*

wow. I am embarrased for you.

You shouldn't be, I was poking fun at you and the ~20% of respondants who felt the same way :laugh:

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: CKent

But... but... wtf???/? urope is like, totally like, a utopia n stuffz!!1111 wimmenz goes around w/o tops bcuz their k3wl n where prudez, zomg topless... zomg boobiez!!1!111 *ejaculates on monitor*

wow. I am embarrased for you.

You shouldn't be, I was poking fun at you and the ~20% of respondants who felt the same way :laugh:

Um, oooookay.


Yes, you're right. That sounded exactly like what I have been saying.


Edit:

Mods: Thanks for letting this one go as long as it did. I have been entertained for days by this conversation. 🙂

 

[bluemax]

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: bluemax
Discretion. I worked in a store where the woman plopped herself down in the middle of the floor by the ink cartridges, whipped her shirt up and proceeded to let her 3-to-4-year old nurse while dancing around. I was horrified.
...
Dancing.... I still can't believe it....

You'd think someone embracing hard data so heartily wouldn't say "most" women are discreet and leave it at that even when called on it. But you trolls tend to be hypocrites.

What???? Where are you spouting this from?? I related a story of one bad breastfeeding incident I witnessed, and my wife who does it right in being discreet about it.
Where's the trolling? Maybe in the mirror, in your case.

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: bluemax

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: bluemax
Discretion. I worked in a store where the woman plopped herself down in the middle of the floor by the ink cartridges, whipped her shirt up and proceeded to let her 3-to-4-year old nurse while dancing around. I was horrified.
...
Dancing.... I still can't believe it....

You'd think someone embracing hard data so heartily wouldn't say "most" women are discreet and leave it at that even when called on it. But you trolls tend to be hypocrites.

What???? Where are you spouting this from?? I related a story of one bad breastfeeding incident I witnessed, and my wife who does it right in being discreet about it.
Where's the trolling? Maybe in the mirror, in your case.

Don't worry, I think he's just trying to use your experience as an example because he can't be bothered to research his own.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

MMMM social norms, folkways and negative sanctions ... far sexier than the breast feeding. MMMM

Egocentric thought seems to indicate that the harmless action of another is somehow deviant because I am uncomfortable with it.
I find it amusing (as I stated earlier) that urinating and defacating (in earlier threads) is somehow equated with breastfeeding in public. I was unaware that women sprayed their breast milk into the environment! Thanks for letting me know that the breastmilk contains potentially harmful waste products (errr ... immunogobulins) that can cause me physical harm. My eyes having seen a women breastfeeding her child about three times in my thirty years have been irrevocably physically damaged and I am currently consulting a lawyer about a class action lawsuit on behalf of all humans not breastfeeding their children against the vile and harmful breastfeeders.

Before you call me an antibreastfeedite I must tell you that breastfeeding is also like defecation in that harmful bacteria is spread by women "whipping it out" and spraying the ground and walls and ceiling with their poisonous breastmilk. Since my eyes are damaged and my socially constructed norms are violated I am suing for 20 million dollars (or a lifetime supply of breasts).

I am also working on a ban on all opposable thumbs because they allow for unnatural gripping of socially constructed utensils and tools that have contributed to the poisoning of the environment.

edit for spelling
principle ingredients in breast milk (that are devastating to the environment like defacation and urine if a drop or two escapes)

Principle breast milk ingredients
Immunoglobulins:
Lactoferrin:
Lysozyme; (the horror it helps promote healthy bacteria in the intestines)
Growth Factors: Human breast milk specifically encourages the growth of lactobacillaceae, which are helpful bacteria that can inhibit many of the disease-causing gram-negative bacteria and parasites. There is a striking difference between the bacteria found in the guts of breast and formula-fed infants. Breast-fed infants have a level of lactobacillus that is typically 10 times greater than that of formula-fed infants.
Carnitine:
DHA & ARA:

 

[Regs]

It kind of freaks me out. I'm not use to women whipping them out at any given moment or by one crying demand. I guess us men never grow past infancy.

 

[djheater]

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: bluemax

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: bluemax
Discretion. I worked in a store where the woman plopped herself down in the middle of the floor by the ink cartridges, whipped her shirt up and proceeded to let her 3-to-4-year old nurse while dancing around. I was horrified.
...
Dancing.... I still can't believe it....

You'd think someone embracing hard data so heartily wouldn't say "most" women are discreet and leave it at that even when called on it. But you trolls tend to be hypocrites.

What???? Where are you spouting this from?? I related a story of one bad breastfeeding incident I witnessed, and my wife who does it right in being discreet about it.
Where's the trolling? Maybe in the mirror, in your case.

Don't worry, I think he's just trying to use your experience as an example because he can't be bothered to research his own.

I suspect that CKent ofen confuses who posted what. He continues to maintain that I personally insulted him, ignoring several actual insults and focusing on my attempts to understand his position. He maintains that I am disguising my personal attacks with so-called professional curiosity (which I'm not sure I understand, considering I work in IT).

From past behavior I predict he will probably misconstrue this opinion and observation as a personal attack as well.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: bluemax

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: bluemax
Discretion. I worked in a store where the woman plopped herself down in the middle of the floor by the ink cartridges, whipped her shirt up and proceeded to let her 3-to-4-year old nurse while dancing around. I was horrified.
...
Dancing.... I still can't believe it....

You'd think someone embracing hard data so heartily wouldn't say "most" women are discreet and leave it at that even when called on it. But you trolls tend to be hypocrites.

What???? Where are you spouting this from?? I related a story of one bad breastfeeding incident I witnessed, and my wife who does it right in being discreet about it.
Where's the trolling? Maybe in the mirror, in your case.

Don't worry, I think he's just trying to use your experience as an example because he can't be bothered to research his own.

I suspect that CKent ofen confuses who posted what. He continues to maintain that I personally insulted him, ignoring several actual insults and focusing on my attempts to understand his position. He maintains that I am disguising my personal attacks with so-called professional curiosity (which I'm not sure I understand, considering I work in IT).

From past behavior I predict he will probably misconstrue this opinion and observation as a personal attack as well.

Other posters guilty of this childish behavior have either apologized for it or otherwise didn't pursue it. You seem to be really caught up in the entitled parent phenomenon, since you're unable to admit imperfection and insist on claiming you didn't do what you did. Maybe it's the fact you have 3 of them.

Originally posted by: MrPickins
Mods: Thanks for letting this one go as long as it did. I have been entertained for days by this conversation. 🙂

Not nearly as much as I have. I'm not particularly fond of talking to extra-thick brick walls, there's gotta be something keeping me posting 😉

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: bluemax

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: bluemax
Discretion. I worked in a store where the woman plopped herself down in the middle of the floor by the ink cartridges, whipped her shirt up and proceeded to let her 3-to-4-year old nurse while dancing around. I was horrified.
...
Dancing.... I still can't believe it....

You'd think someone embracing hard data so heartily wouldn't say "most" women are discreet and leave it at that even when called on it. But you trolls tend to be hypocrites.

What???? Where are you spouting this from?? I related a story of one bad breastfeeding incident I witnessed, and my wife who does it right in being discreet about it.
Where's the trolling? Maybe in the mirror, in your case.

Don't worry, I think he's just trying to use your experience as an example because he can't be bothered to research his own.

I suspect that CKent ofen confuses who posted what. He continues to maintain that I personally insulted him, ignoring several actual insults and focusing on my attempts to understand his position. He maintains that I am disguising my personal attacks with so-called professional curiosity (which I'm not sure I understand, considering I work in IT).

From past behavior I predict he will probably misconstrue this opinion and observation as a personal attack as well.

Other posters guilty of this childish behavior have either apologized for it or otherwise didn't pursue it. You seem to be really caught up in the entitled parent phenomenon, since you're unable to admit imperfection and insist on claiming you didn't do what you did. Maybe it's the fact you have 3 of them.

Originally posted by: MrPickins
Mods: Thanks for letting this one go as long as it did. I have been entertained for days by this conversation. 🙂

Not nearly as much as I have. I'm not particularly fond of talking to extra-thick brick walls, there's gotta be something keeping me posting 😉

I am a brickwall with a breastfeeding spraying whipped out bacteria environment harming eye destroying sexual inneundo complex. My intellect and ego are socially constructed as to become threatened by a 0 1 logic gate interaction with external stimuli (humans and breasts).

MMMM. brickwall, folkways, mores and other sociological/psychological grist for the mill to grind into a fine round robin (sp) argument that has individuals entrenched in their own belief structures thus pointlessly arguing .... ..... ..... The sky is pretty tonight.

 

[JBT]

Its fine with me. A kids gotta eat.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
I am a brickwall with a breastfeeding spraying whipped out bacteria environment harming eye destroying sexual inneundo complex. My intellect and ego are socially constructed as to become threatened by a 0 1 logic gate interaction with external stimuli (humans and breasts).

MMMM. brickwall, folkways, mores and other sociological/psychological grist for the mill to grind into a fine round robin (sp) argument that has individuals entrenched in their own belief structures thus pointlessly arguing .... ..... ..... The sky is pretty tonight.

You misspelled 'external'. And having this much fun is far from pointless... smiling is good for you 🙂