Poll: Prostitution, should it be legal or not?

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In the United States, prostitution should:

  • Remain illegal, with even steeper penalties

  • Remain illegal, with the same relatively modest penalties

  • Be legal


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Carmen813

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This is amusing considering the last paragraph of your post.




I would wager that every man in this conversation has paid for sex in one way or another. Most of it indirectly, dinner, drinks at a bar, jewelry, I could go on forever about what men do legally to get sex that involves the transfer of money or objects from one party to the other and I bet you did/do it too. Of course I doubt you will admit it but thems the facts bud. There is a good reason for that too.


LOL, do you know what the difference of pay is? Regardless, people are being paid to have sex. Are you suggesting that you would agree with prostitution if both parties pay each other but one party makes vastly more than the other? If that is the case then you just created the perfect loophole.



Men say women can't do something with their own body = good
Men repeal that law and say women CAN choose to, or not to do, with their own body = bad?
LOL, fo real dawg?

It's a bet you'd lose, but I doubt there is anyway I can convince you of that. I've dated and had sex with a total of one woman, which is my wife (a fact of which I'm sure more than a few of you just snickered at). I choose a long time ago that I was going to wait until I had a meaningful relationship established before having sex.

I don't really think pornography is a good thing, but I see it as operating on a different level than prostitution. It's also merely an attempt to divert attention and refute my position with something that is similar, but ultimately totally different. You aren't addressing my main point, but talking in circles around it.

Woolfe,
Sex in advertising is being used to sell a separate product, not sex itself. A small distinction for sure, but one that I think is important. We could go into a discussion about how advertising manipulates women as well, but it's not really relevant and would probably fall on blind eyes.
 

Mursilis

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Mar 11, 2001
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You aren't addressing my main point, but talking in circles around it.

I'm still unclear about what your point is. I get that you think prostitution is a bad thing, but then, Jews and Muslims think eating pork is a bad thing, and I have no problem with them holding that opinion, as long as pork is legal for the rest of us. But why should prostitution be an illegal thing?
 

jackschmittusa

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Apr 16, 2003
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Legal, regulated, taxed.

How is a football player any different than a prostitute? They use their bodies to provide an entertainment service, face potentially severe health issues, and have a large number of people who are willing to voluntarily part with their money for the entertainment.

The Greeks and Romans in their times allowed prostitution. The Greeks considered it a respectable profession and some prostitutes were even celebrities commanding large fees. The Romans simply considered it another form of manual labor.

If it is legal there will be people that willingly choose to pursue it as an occupation. Does anyone really believe that women in legal brothels (such as in Nevada) are coerced into the job?

Because it is illegal in most places here is why we have coercion. Pimps use drugs and beatings to build and control their stables. Most women who work for pimps make very little money they can keep. The drug angle is also a vector for disease.

Prostitution is currently an underground economy. It contributes nothing to the tax base and has no rules.

The porn industry has self regulated and resolved the health issue problem. There is no reason to believe that government regulation would be less effective if it is based on these proven and effective terms and conditions.

Sex has no magic of mystical properties unless a religion says it is so. While you might personally feel it is somehow special, that is not a universally shared opinion. Sex does not inherently devalue anybody.
 

zsdersw

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Oct 29, 2003
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I see no basis for the need for taxation or regulation of it, were it to become legal everywhere.
 

GTaudiophile

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I haven't read the thread but it is legal in most parts of Europe. In Germany, it is unionized and patrolled such that workers must get tested weekly to "renew" their license. Safer for everyone.
 

69Mach1

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If you count what if cost me to get married, maintain the wife while married, and get divorced, then divide by the number of times I got laid while married, I could have paid for at least a $500 hooker each time. Men who don't think they're paying for it just aren't paying attention.
 

Hacp

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Jun 8, 2005
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If you count what if cost me to get married, maintain the wife while married, and get divorced, then divide by the number of times I got laid while married, I could have paid for at least a $500 hooker each time. Men who don't think they're paying for it just aren't paying attention.

Its just another example of Feminists trying to screw hard working men over. Or to more accurately present it, prevent them from getting screwed!
 

sao123

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May 27, 2002
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Precisely a point I just made in my posts above, and precisely why prostitution was made illegal to begin with, because females are the bulk of prostitutes, and paternalistic society views female promiscuity as worse than male promiscuity. How that is an argument in favor of its continued criminalization is beyond me. Do we need to police female sexual behavior more so than male sexual behavior?

- wolf


They should both be criminized & policed equally to the maximum extent possible. This is also why polygamy remains illegal today.
 

woolfe9999

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Mar 28, 2005
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It's a bet you'd lose, but I doubt there is anyway I can convince you of that. I've dated and had sex with a total of one woman, which is my wife (a fact of which I'm sure more than a few of you just snickered at). I choose a long time ago that I was going to wait until I had a meaningful relationship established before having sex.

I don't really think pornography is a good thing, but I see it as operating on a different level than prostitution. It's also merely an attempt to divert attention and refute my position with something that is similar, but ultimately totally different. You aren't addressing my main point, but talking in circles around it.

Woolfe,
Sex in advertising is being used to sell a separate product, not sex itself. A small distinction for sure, but one that I think is important. We could go into a discussion about how advertising manipulates women as well, but it's not really relevant and would probably fall on blind eyes.

Sex in advertising is used to sell other products, by deceptively convincing us that we are actually buying sex when we're not. How ironic that it's OK to suggest to someone that if they drink lots of beer, hot women will jump all over them, when in fact the opposite is more likely true. But tell someone, OK, pay $50 for a blow job, and that's a crime.

Our society is full of hypocritical double standards about all things sexual.

- wolf
 

freegeeks

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May 7, 2001
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I live in Belgium, prostitution is legal here, pimping is illegal. They are just taxed like everyone else...
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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This is a classic example of sociologists and psychologists trying to "change" our behavior aka force us not to do things we want to do.

Men like prostitution and women like to provide their services for money. Rich liberal sociologists however don't want poor men to enjoy the benefits of prostitution so they make it illegal. They want to bend liberty and eliminate freedom. The communists are taking over. Be scared, be very scared.

when the fuck did you get the idea that it's rich liberals that want to ban prostitution?

lolfail.

if anything, it's a combined morally backwards assumption irrespective of politics--but if you want to pin it on one party--liberals? lolwtf.

you just like to use that word loosely, yeah? it's become habit to use it, I guess, as your catch-all derogatory label for "that which I fear and have no hope of understanding."
 

woolfe9999

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Mar 28, 2005
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when the fuck did you get the idea that it's rich liberals that want to ban prostitution?

lolfail.

if anything, it's a combined morally backwards assumption irrespective of politics--but if you want to pin it on one party--liberals? lolwtf.

you just like to use that word loosely, yeah? it's become habit to use it, I guess, as your catch-all derogatory label for "that which I fear and have no hope of understanding."

He's spouting the usual tripe.

I checked around and I was only able to find one scientific poll on legalizing prostitution (online polls are unscientific and don't count.)

The first number favors legalizing, the second is against. Bear in mind this is from 1995.

Democrat 19 81
Republican 17 83
Independent 23 77

Looks about even between the two, with independents favoring legalization slightly more than dems or reps.

The data also shows the following results: males favor legalization more than females, catholics more than protestants, city dwellers more than rural types, educated more than less educated, higher income more than lower income, whites more than minorities, west coast more than south.

So the profile of one who is pro-legalization, at least in 1995, was: white, male, urban, educated, well off, either political party, and the profile of the anti was everything opposite of that.

http://prostitution.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000121

- wolf
 

ericlp

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Dec 24, 2000
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To be clear, if you believe in regulated prostitution, then the appropriate poll answer is option 3, "be legal."

- wolf


As usual you are confused. If it legal unregulated and regulated would make no difference. It's like leaving a cash tip in a restaurant how are you gonna regulate that?
 

ericlp

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when the fuck did you get the idea that it's rich liberals that want to ban prostitution?

lolfail.

if anything, it's a combined morally backwards assumption irrespective of politics--but if you want to pin it on one party--liberals? lolwtf.

you just like to use that word loosely, yeah? it's become habit to use it, I guess, as your catch-all derogatory label for "that which I fear and have no hope of understanding."


Most right wing libs are heavy church fucks... so yeah... you could pin this on them or at least I would... Why else is prostitution not banned? Read the bible much?
 

woolfe9999

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The majority are paid in cash.. and that's just fine.

The fact that many can get around paying taxes by accepting cash then not reporting it, like waiters do with tips, is no argument against requiring the payment of taxes. I don't understand your reasoning. Are you saying that because, as a practical matter, much of their income will go unreported, they shouldn't be required to report it?

- wolf
 

ericlp

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matter of fact the alternative to legalizing it would be less sex crimes and most likely less under age sex. If were really lucky it may even slack off of some the molesting in the churches.

Are the crimes going to go away instantly NO... It's won't stop them but I am sure it will stop some of them. Maybe even new ones may pop up... Like say you wife wants to make a few more bucks and goes out ... does a few tricks, then the hubby finds out... BAM BAM BAM! Or it might be easy for a killer to kill a bunch of working woman, but you can't tell me that it doesn't go on already? So I don't see how that's going to increase too much. I could see STD's and other diseases popping up at a higher rate that is until we get robots to become prostitutes! :D

Hey, maybe we can get MaryJane and Prostitution legalized all at the same time! One can dream right?
 

ericlp

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The fact that many can get around paying taxes by accepting cash then not reporting it, like waiters do with tips, is no argument against requiring the payment of taxes. I don't understand your reasoning. Are you saying that because, as a practical matter, much of their income will go unreported, they shouldn't be required to report it?

- wolf


Well, that is just one example there are MANY MANY people out there cooking the books in one form or another. Most business people have two sets esp, if they are dealing with cash in an establishment and that is JUST one example. I can think of many many many more! esp, when you have rich people using loop holes.

It kinda amazes me you put -wolf at the end of you messages like we couldn't tell who you are when your posting... This isn't CNN.

--- Eric