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Poll: Proper English and knowledge ????

They can be smart in other fields and be bad at English, but having said that, I sure as hell wouldn't hire someone who couldn't communicate at my standards. To me, a grasp of the English language is imperative for any job that requires communication and/or reporting.

If you're just going to be stuffing envelopes for me or cleaning my floors, then I don't give a flying fvck whether or not you know English. 😀
 
Example: If I tell someone to "Go there/their now" my brain does not need to think about the proper spelling of the word. Only when it is written down.
 
they can know all kinds of stuff, but credibility lies almost solely on english

edit: though there are plenty of smarty-pants people in other countries.
 
Originally posted by: bigalt
they can know all kinds of stuff, but credibility lies almost solely on english

edit: though there are plenty of smarty-pants people in other countries.
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I think credibility comes from being able to effectively communicate. In this case it's English but it applies to other languages too.
 
I know a lot of people in engineering that have poor English writing skills. Of course a lot of them are immigrants, so I wouldn't be too hard on them. Most engineers I know communicate nicely, but have poor writing skills.
 
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I know a lot of people in engineering that have poor English writing skills. Of course a lot of them are immigrants, so I wouldn't be too hard on them. Most engineers I know communicate nicely, but have poor writing skills.
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I find that women and gays are better at english then men.


No disrespect either to women or gays !!!!!!
 
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Example: If I tell someone to "Go there/their now" my brain does not need to think about the proper spelling of the word. Only when it is written down.
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That's because the person to whom you are speaking knows which it is from context; "their" as in a possessive use or "there" as in a place reference. When you say, "We ate at their house.", the person listening understands the word is supposed to be the possessive term THEIR, not there or they're, because that's what the sentence is about and that's the word expected to be used.

When it's written though, the reader depends upon the writer to use the proper spelling of the word......when you see the word THEIR, you expect something that is possessed, an object or something....."The boys threw their shoes into the creek." When you see the word THERE, you expect a reference to a direction or place...."We ate over there on that park bench." When you write THEY'RE, you expect to see it followed by a description of some people doing or having something...."They're in the yard playing catch with the dog."

BTW......
speaking english and communicating in english is different then knowing verbs, nouns and pronouns ?
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The proper word is THAN not then.......then is a time or sequence reference such as " We did this first then that." as opposed to a comparative use when THAN is used...."I prefer this rather than that."

The one I love is "I could of went to town but stayed home and payed bills" Sheesh......the excuse is "It's only the internet." but that falls flat on its face because the person seems to have no cluse that the word is supposed to be "could've", a contraction of "could have"...indicating past time reference. Of course, there is the use of went instead of the proper gone......and when did "payed" stand for the proper word "paid"?????


And honestly, if you are extremely weak in proper English usage, no amount of tech skills is going to advance you very far in the heirarchy. Poor communication skills will prohibit advancement in many business environments. A business can teach almost anyone the skills to do a job, but few businesses have the time and resources to teach English usage, something that should have been taught to you over the course of your life. A lifetime of bad habits and laziness will not be overcome with a spellchecker program (many of the words "misspelled" are other, properly spelled words and a spell check program won't pick those out.) A business doesn't have the time to either send you to remedial classes for English use or have someone proofread everything you may send out to be read by customers, staff, etc. Believe me, a business can stand only so many embarassments by a seemingly ignorant staff member using improper English before that staff member is relieved of that responsibility. I didn't say fired, just having your responsibility reduced and hence your advancement potential.
 
Originally posted by: C'DaleRider
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Example: If I tell someone to "Go there/their now" my brain does not need to think about the proper spelling of the word. Only when it is written down.
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That's because the person to whom you are speaking knows which it is from context; "their" as in a possessive use or "there" as in a place reference. When you say, "We ate at their house.", the person listening understands the word is supposed to be the possessive term THEIR, not there or they're, because that's what the sentence is about and that's the word expected to be used.

When it's written though, the reader depends upon the writer to use the proper spelling of the word......when you see the word THEIR, you expect something that is possessed, an object or something....."The boys threw their shoes into the creek." When you see the word THERE, you expect a reference to a direction or place...."We ate over there on that park bench." When you write THEY'RE, you expect to see it followed by a description of some people doing or having something...."They're in the yard playing catch with the dog."

BTW......
speaking english and communicating in english is different then knowing verbs, nouns and pronouns ?
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The proper word is THAN not then.......then is a time or sequence reference such as " We did this first then that." as opposed to a comparative use when THAN is used...."I prefer this rather than that."

The one I love is "I could of went to town but stayed home and payed bills" Sheesh......the excuse is "It's only the internet." but that falls flat on its face because the person seems to have no cluse that the word is supposed to be "could've", a contraction of "could have"...indicating past time reference. Of course, there is the use of went instead of the proper gone......and when did "payed" stand for the proper word "paid"?????


And honestly, if you are extremely weak in proper English usage, no amount of tech skills is going to advance you very far in the heirarchy. Poor communication skills will prohibit advancement in many business environments. A business can teach almost anyone the skills to do a job, but few businesses have the time and resources to teach English usage, something that should have been taught to you over the course of your life. A lifetime of bad habits and laziness will not be overcome with a spellchecker program (many of the words "misspelled" are other, properly spelled words and a spell check program won't pick those out.) A business doesn't have the time to either send you to remedial classes for English use or have someone proofread everything you may send out to be read by customers, staff, etc. Believe me, a business can stand only so many embarassments by a seemingly ignorant staff member using improper English before that staff member is relieved of that responsibility. I didn't say fired, just having your responsibility reduced and hence your advancement potential.
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Maybe hire a really good secretary ?

 
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