Poll: Poll: Should 14 year old kid be sentenced Life

Elledan

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Jul 24, 2000
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I think it's foolish. Yet another wasted life.

Odds are that this kid isn't planning to kill more people if he's released now... Ah well, who dares to oppose 'justice'?
 

Dameon

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Oct 11, 1999
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I'd have to know more about what happened.

IE - if he took a flamethrower to her face... and laughed while she screamed hell yes I think he should suffer.

 

Jugernot

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Oct 12, 1999
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Hell yes he should. You don't do the type of long term damage he did to her without knowing.

Fry em!
 

Demosthenes

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No, I think that when the law books say (don't they?) that a child under the age of 18 should recieve special treatment under the law, they should. No.. teenagers aren't "children" by far, but they sure as hell aren't adults either. Tons of influences we'll never be able to prove still have massive effects on these kids.. maybe we need a new consideration for criminials this age, maybe dish out 10 or 20 year sentences for terrible crimes commited by 14-18, but they definently do not deserve life.
 

prodigy

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Oct 9, 1999
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I don't think he should be in there for life, but 25 years should be long enough.
 

syzygy

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Feb 5, 2001
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there maybe some doubt about his mental capacity, whether he might genuinely score in the borderline iq range. undoubtedly he suffers from severe emotional shortcomings. this kid does not look 'altogether there'; his look constantly drifts, either back to his mother, or wherever. just floating. he definitely should not be sentenced to death.

the jury seems to have been on a bloodhunt. they needed to send a statement to dumb floridians, the country, and the world just how depraved their notions of justice actually happen to be. it would better serve society if this jury were fed to the
chair.
 

MikeD

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Oct 19, 1999
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It will be interesting to see if this kid in San Diego gets life for shooting up the school? If not this country is still as rascist as ever.
 

divinemartyr

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Oct 18, 2000
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<< The defense?s own experts conceded that Lionel?s story would not have accounted for all of Tiffany?s injuries, which one prosecution expert said were comparable to falling from a three-story building. >>



That says it all.

You don't 'accidentally' hurt someone so bad, that the injuries would have been the same if she fell out of a window on the 3rd floor of a building. Come on! This kid deserves exactly what he got, there is no excuse for murdering anyone, let alone a 6 year old child.

If this kid was 18, no one would have any question as to whether or not he should be crucified. Just because he's 4 years younger makes NO difference at all. How many of you got close to killing someone while 'playing around' at age 14?

dm
 

divinemartyr

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Oct 18, 2000
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Only in America would people think this kid doesn't deserve to be in jail for life. In most countries he'd be shot or hung publically.

dm
 

AnimeKnight

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But you gotta realize that.. He killed her when he was 12 still in elementary school where power ranger still popular back then ;) according to the defense he was influenced by the WWF you really think a kid can tell that WWF is fake?? all those chair bashings..
 

thraashman

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Apr 10, 2000
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actually the boy was 12 when he committed the crime. 12 years old can still be in elementary school. I knew people in elementary school who would do worse to me, but I was big enough to take it and fight back. whereas I would have liked someone to punish them to show them right from wrong, I don't think any of them ever intended to kill me, and I had some bad stuff done to me.
 

Zoltar

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May 1, 2000
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STFU all you bleeding heart liberals.

Let's see how you feel if someone did this to your daughter.

The 14 year old is a waste of life. He should be dead, so my freaking tax dollars don't pay for his room, board, and free cable TV for the rest of his life.

And I don't care about your crappy retort how much money it costs the legal system to kill a person. That just happens to be a travesty in itself.
 

Ferocious

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Feb 16, 2000
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12 years old when he comitted this crime??

I dunno about a life sentence. A tough call. A real tough call.

But I'm surprised some of the RepubliKLANS here aren't screaming for the death penalty.
 

duragezic

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Oct 11, 1999
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At 12yr it's a tough call but still wtf when you were 12 I really hope you knew right and wrong and killing someone is VERY wrong. A little kid even knows that.

They are supposedly stiffening up the penalty on these things for minors but I don't know... If the person kills several people they should get an automatic death sentence whether they are a minor or not. Quite harsh but how the hell else are these shooting going to stop?
 

woodie1

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Mar 7, 2000
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If you had seen all the injuries the girl had you would know his story is bull.

He did the crime now do the time.
 

syzygy

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the only countries in the world who do actually sentence and execute children are iran, sudan, and afghanistan. only a handful more have the death penalty, and of those, there
are the countries who will execute those individuals who commit treason.

how nice for the united states, supposedly an enlightened leader of the free world, that regularly hands out reports poo-pooing the human right abuses in third world dictatorships and other nations less civilized than our ourselves, would join iran
and afghanistan as an executor of children. this is what is popularly known as
sickening hypocricy.



 

iamwiz82

Lifer
Jan 10, 2001
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you bleeding hearts would be at the head of the lynch mob if it was your kid that he &quot;accidently&quot; beat to death.
 

SuperTool

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Jan 25, 2000
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The kid wasn't even a teen when he committed this crime. He was a child who did a stupid thing. This is the biggest perversion of justice I have seen in a long time. That's what's wrong with this country and why the whole world thinks we are backwards. Overzealous prosecutors who have no sense of proportion. Being tough on crime is so politically popular, it's a slippery slope because politicians make laws tougher and tougher without considering the consequences. Before you know it, we will execute people for running a red light.
 

Zoltar

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May 1, 2000
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My kid wouldn't do the crime.

On the chance yes, if he/she is capable of such things, it wouldn't be by my teaching.

I wouldn't want my failed child. Cold, but true.
 

GL

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Oct 9, 1999
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Prison time has never been a deterrant for crimes such as murder. Those people who are zealous enough to not respect the laws of the country frequently snub their nose at lengthy sentences and commit murder anyways. Prison would deter you or me from trying some more &quot;moderate&quot; crime like neglegent driving for example.

The only use for prison is to lock up those individuals who would likely commit crimes. You lock them up indefinitely if they cannot be rehabilitated and would likely commit a crime regardless of how much help they received. You lock them up for smaller, finite lengths of time if you can reform them into law-obiding citizens. I'd count this kid in the latter group, and say he deserves to be in prison for less than a life sentence.

I still stand by my post in another thread about this. Prison time of 10 years in which the kid would be forced to complete high school from within prison and also receive rehabilitation from licensed professionals, and 5 years parole afterward.

And it's laughable that people want to hand down a death sentence or life sentence &quot;to send out a message&quot;. This kid was 12 at the time of the crime...do you think 12 year olds care about case precedence or even watch CNN for that matter? Sorry...there ain't no receiver for your message.

The sad thing is that the actual judicial process didn't fail. The child was offered a very leniant sentence before going to trial in a plea-bargain attempt, but his good-for-nothing mother and lacklustre attorney promptly rejected that offer. It would have meant no jail time.

-GL
 

woodie1

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Mar 7, 2000
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Those who think the sentence is too harsh need to listen to what the judge said when passing sentence.

Life in Florida isn't really for life.
 

JoeBaD

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May 24, 2000
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I ain't no BHL but I too think life is too much.

The mother was baby-sitting the little girl. The article says she served them dinner then WENT UPSTAIRS TO SLEEP.

Maybe she should serve a little of the time.

By the way, there ain't no Klan in Republican.
 

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